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If he said that they would pay the fee, then tell him to have it ready when you get there.
It shouldn't be that hard really if you're doing a straight copy and paste. Let's see something.
If he said that they would pay the fee, then tell him to have it ready when you get there.
http://http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3...ife/?GT1=43001
Doing this on my iPhone. Let's see how it turns out.msnbc.com
Firefighters in rural Tennessee let a home burn to the ground last week because the homeowner hadn't paid a $75 fee.
Gene Cranick of Obion County and his family lost all of their possessions in the Sept. 29 fire, along with three dogs and a cat.Luck_The_Fakers_
"They could have been saved if they had put water on it, but they didn't do it," Cranick told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann.
The fire started when the Cranicks' grandson was burning trash near the family home. As it grew out of control, the Cranicks called 911, but the fire department from the nearby city of South Fulton would not respond.
"We wasn't on their list," he said the operators told him.
Cranick, who lives outside the city limits, admits he "forgot" to pay the annual $75 fee. The county does not have a county-wide firefighting service, but South Fulton offers fire coverage to rural residents for a fee.
Cranick says he told the operator he would pay whatever is necessary to have the fire put out.
His offer wasn't accepted, he said.
The fire fee policy dates back 20 or so years.
"Anybody that's not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it's a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don't," said South Fulton Mayor David Crocker.
The fire department's decision to let the home burn was "incredibly irresponsible," said the president of an association representing firefighters.
"Professional, career firefighters shouldn’t be forced to check a list before running out the door to see which homeowners have paid up," Harold Schatisberger, International Association of Fire Fighters president, said in a statement. "They get in their trucks and go."
Firefighters did eventually show up, but only to fight the fire on the neighboring property, whose owner had paid the fee.
"They put water out on the fence line out here. They never said nothing to me. Never acknowledged. They stood out here and watched it burn," Cranick said.
South Fulton's mayor said that the fire department can't let homeowners pay the fee on the spot, because the only people who would pay would be those whose homes are on fire.
Cranick, who is now living in a trailer on his property, says his insurance policy will help cover some of his lost home.
"Insurance is going to pay for what money I had on the policy, looks like. But like everything else, I didn't have enough."
After the blaze, South Fulton police arrested one of Cranick's sons, Timothy Allen Cranick, on an aggravated assault charge, according to WPSD-TV, an NBC station in Paducah, Ky.
Police told WPSD that the younger Cranick attacked Fire Chief David Wilds at the firehouse because he was upset his father's house was allowed to burn.
WPSD-TV reported that Wilds was treated and released.
It's complete bull for people to post the "no car insurance" argument. No extraneous en y stops car accidents from happening, it's called an accident for a reason.
Cops don't stop car accidents, they stop crimes.
Firefighters don't stop car accidents, they stop fires.
Do car insurance agents stop car accidents, do they stop anything at all? No, they don't, because insurance is a post-event utility that takes care of losses based on the event.
Firefighters prevent damage, they stop losses - and even though they were right next to a burning house they refused to do anything because some with a checklist told them not to. That's some pussy ass bull . Sure, the guy looks like a difficult man that probably talked a lot of about a "fire tax," but that's not enough to warrant leaving him and his family to watch their house be destroyed. The man's son confronted and beat up the fire cheif, so that just makes things worse because you know that pussy will act like he didn't deserve to be punched and press charges.
It's inexcusable to allow an entire family's history of memories, furniture, and place to sleep burn over $75. In 20 years they didn't think of a better penalty for people that refused to pay other than letting their burn? South Fulton is country.
You pay the 75.00. If you don't pay it you pay the cost plus some additional punitive fee. If you don't pay said fee within a reasonable amount of time, say six months to a year, they put a lien on your home, possibly foreclose.
Not pretty but you gotta pay for if you want it.
Put a lien on a house? Possibly foreclose? That's horse , too, over a $75 dollar ing fee.
$4000-5000 fine for various fees related to having the fire fighters go out of their way for you in another county when you haven't paid the $75 sounds fair and reasonable. It's a big enough consequence that shouldn't put people out of a home when they know there's a bill to pay. If they try to dodge that, then obviously further action can be taken, but I doubt people would be that ungrateful for their homes being saved.
Not to defend the firefighters, but people keep saying it is all over $75. I wonder, though, just how many years the guy chose not to pay the $75.
It is like people who do not want to live in the city limits because they do not want to pay city taxes. Then, they get mad when they do not get city services for free that are paid for with city taxes-- like fire, police, libraries...
I'm not saying foreclose over the 75.00, I'm saying foreclose over the 4-5K if you don't pay it within a reasonable time.
I've read that some municipalities in the county charge on an as needed basis on rural calls($500).
They've collected on less than half of the calls they've responded to in the past.
I really can't blame them for watching the house burn
Unbelievable, that's just ridiculous. They should have put out the fire and then demand for money and even more money. It's their duty in such situations, and afterwards is the time to think about the money, not before. When someone is dangerously ill, a doctor can't say to not help him, its his duty.
If the morons dont pay then they dont get serviced.
stop encouraging theft and make these assholes pay. if they cant afford it, then em. let the house burn.
the destroyed house will have a reduced appraisal, so the property taxes lost will far exceed $75.
I read where the entire county could receive fire fighting coverage like civilized counties, even like all other bubba counties, with 0.13% increase in property taxes.
+1 I must not understand a Firefighter's code.
Firefighters don't prevent fires to, they provide a service after the event as well (after the fire has started). What car insurance and firefighters have in common is they reduce the owner's liability for the damage after the event occurs (after the moment the cars have crashed/after the moment the fire has started).
With that being said, I agree there is a better way and I would have no problem with a $75 fee. As someone has already stated I would think this would work if you don't pay and you need their services, they have to provide you with service. After the fact, you get charged 5k and if you don't pay it off within 6 months, forclosure proceedings start.
emergency services are not about workers deciding on who deserves their assistance. there is a strong protocol of ethics that must be applied categorically when it comes to to all emergency services. if this is compromised, this entails some potentially dangerous consequences.
This is what I was thinking. As Firefighters I think this type of action goes against their ethical code.
Fire Fighters Creed
When I'm called to duty god
wherever flames may rage
give me strength to save a life
whatever be its age
Help me to embrace a little child
before it is too late
or save an older person from
the horror of that fate
Enable me to be alert
to hear the weakest shout
and quickly and efficiently
to put the fire out
I want to fill my calling and
to give the best in me
to guard my neighbour and
protect his property
And if according to your will
I have to lose my life
bless with your protecting hand
my children and my wife.
Nothing there about asking if dues are paid.
I guess he should've jumped back into his burning house to make an example out of the firefighters.
My kids were born at a hospital that doesn't accept uninsured patients. HOWEVER, it has a huge sign saying that if you are in need of emergency medical assistance and stumble into the hospital, they WON'T refuse you and will treat you until you are ready to move to the county hospital.
This is how all emergency services should be provided, if in need, provide the service, then collect later and a substantially increased rate.
yep, in an ER you will be treated regardless of insurance.
updated 9:24 p.m. ET, Tue., Oct. 05, 2010 ay, no spray: Firefighters let home burn msnbc.com Firefighters in rural Tennessee let a home burn to the ground last week because the homeowner hadn't paid a $75 fee. Gene Cranick of Obion County and his family lost all of their possessions in the Sept. 29 fire, along with three dogs and a cat."They could have been saved if they had put water on it, but they didn't do it," Cranick told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann. The fire started when the Cranicks' grandson was burning trash near the family home. As it grew out of control, the Cranicks called 911, but the fire department from the nearby city of South Fulton would not respond"We wasn't on their list," he said the operators told him Cranick, who lives outside the city limits, admits he "forgot" to pay the annual $75 fee. The county does not have a county-wide firefighting service, but South Fulton offers fire coverage to rural residents for a fee. Cranick says he told the operator he would pay whatever is necessary to have the fire put out His offer wasn't accepted, he said. The fire fee policy dates back 20 or so years."Anybody that's not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it's a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don't," said South Fulton Mayor David Crocker. The fire department's decision to let the home burn was "incredibly irresponsible," said the president of an association representing firefighters"Professional, career firefighters shouldn’t be forced to check a list before running out the door to see which homeowners have paid up," Harold Schatisberger, International Association of Fire Fighters president, said in a statement. "They get in their trucks and go." Firefighters did eventually show up, but only to fight the fire on the neighboring property, whose owner had paid the fee."They put water out on the fence line out here. They never said nothing to me. Never acknowledged. They stood out here and watched it burn," Cranick said. South Fulton's mayor said that the fire department can't let homeowners pay the fee on the spot, because the only people who would pay would be those whose homes are on fire Cranick, who is now living in a trailer on his property, says his insurance policy will help cover some of his lost home"Insurance is going to pay for what money I had on the policy, looks like. But like everything else, I didn't have enough." After the blaze, South Fulton police arrested one of Cranick's sons, Timothy Allen Cranick, on an aggravated assault charge, according to WPSD-TV, an NBC station n Paducah, Ky. Police told WPSD that the younger Cranick attacked Fire Chief David Wilds at the firehouse because he was upset his father's house was allowed to burn WPSD-TV reported that Wilds was treated and released.
OK figure c/c/p out
Creed or no creed
cost money
i agree...if you dont pay the fee, you should get fined a buttload if they save your house from a fire. Its like insurance.
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