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    I mean, are these grades absolute? Duncan B+, Dyess B+. Does that suggest that both of their efforts were comparable?

    Or is this a "B+ game for duncan" and a B+ game for Dyess?

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    Temple for Neal?????
    yes. we needed another ball handler on the floor. it would have been Hill obviously. I like Neal over Temple but not just yet to handle the ball handling duties when the game is on the line.

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    nash shot terrible
    tp sucked on his o second half sat some due to foul trouble
    but nash shot terrible
    Yeah, he's like 90, and the Spurs made him play about 8 more first half minutes than Phoenix wanted him to by getting Dragic in foul trouble. Nash is having to shoot more from short range with Amare gone, so his flaws are exposed. He also takes some ridiculous shots, and as you get older and less quick and agile, that stops falling.

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    dude, duncan got a b but yet he put up MVP numbers...uh ok...

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    I mean, are these grades absolute? Duncan B+, Dyess B+. Does that suggest that both of their efforts were comparable?

    Or is this a "B+ game for duncan" and a B+ game for Dyess?
    yeah its relative to what they are capable.

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    Parker deserves at least a B- due to his non-stop energy and effort when he was guarding Nash.

    I swear Parker thought it was the playoffs out there when defending Nash.

    Very proud of him, in fact, his effort on D might have something to do with lack of energy on Offense. Maybe?
    Have to bump this post. Nash shot 5-15, if I remember correctly. Fantastic job on him by Tony.

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    dude, duncan got a b but yet he put up MVP numbers...uh ok...
    he also had lots of turnovers dude

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    he also had lots of turnovers dude
    And, he also had a game winning block, shot 11-13 from the field, scored 27, had 17 rebounds, and 3 blocks (total).

    It's good to look at the big picture, in my opinion, not just focus on points, or just rebounds, or just turnovers, or just assists.

    Game changing plays (like that critical block near the end) also tend to get more of a look in my opinion.

    But then again this is all opinion there is no right answer. The numbers are what they are.

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    Game securing block, rather, technically not "game winning"

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    duncan sucked in the first half
    he played half a game
    he did not have a a game tonight
    he had a a plus the second half

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    Game securing block, rather, technically not "game winning"
    rj bailedout his turnovers in the first half that block would not have mattered

    45 seconds 9 points

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    Yea imo Duncan had an A level game but the rest of the grades look good to me. Parker might deserve a little higher rating if you figure his great defense but man did he pick up a lot of fouls.

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    duncan sucked in the first half
    he played half a game
    he did not have a a game tonight
    he had a a plus the second half
    Ok, that's your prerogative. We'll agree to disagree.

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    i mean, are these grades absolute? Duncan b+, dyess b+. Does that suggest that both of their efforts were comparable?

    Or is this a "b+ game for duncan" and a b+ game for dyess?
    Latter.

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    Ah, that makes the grades much more reasonable. Good stuff.

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    Tony Parker's defense on Nash in the second half was ideal.

    So much for that "Parker doesn't play defense" horse argument.

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    yes. we needed another ball handler on the floor. it would have been Hill obviously. I like Neal over Temple but not just yet to handle the ball handling duties when the game is on the line.
    Could not agree more. Right now Neal is a situational role player. He should not be asked to handle just yet. Hes probably still getting comfortable in his current role. IIRC, asking players to play out of position usually works out badly for us. (Bonner, RJ playing the 4, Mason playing 1 etc.)

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    Id give Pop an A+ in coaching tonight also. I thought everything he did was pretty much perfect. No small ball tonight minus certain situations under 1 minute was a beautiful site.
    Temple over Neal when we were up by 15 isn't to give him an A+

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    yes. we needed another ball handler on the floor. it would have been Hill obviously. I like Neal over Temple but not just yet to handle the ball handling duties when the game is on the line.
    Ball handling wasn't the reason why Temple was in over Neal. (Temple actually didn't look too confident bringing the ball up the floor when he was in the game; which lead to Manu bringing it up more often)

    Temple over Neal was all about defending Nash in the pick and roll.

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    rj bailedout his turnovers in the first half that block would not have mattered

    45 seconds 9 points
    Respectfully, your reasoning is all over the place. I don't agree with the flow of logic at all, to be honest, but it is what it is.

    Why single out RJ? Why not say "well if Ginobili didn't carry the offensive load initially shooting 4-5 that block would not have have mattered"

    Or, "if duncan did not shoot 11-13, RJ's 3 point barrage would not have mattered."

    It's a team game, this is a team win. Your reasoning is flawed.

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    Ball handling wasn't the reason why Temple was in over Neal. (Temple actually didn't look too confident bringing the ball up the floor when he was in the game; which lead to Manu bringing it up more often)

    Temple over Neal was all about defending Nash in the pick and roll.
    I thought Temple's D was passable on Nash. When he was able to stick with him he did a great job contesting, but a few times he would get caught on the screen. All in all he did a better job than I expected.

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    Temple did a good job on d, no question duncan A at the LEAST Jefferson was sick well deserved A+.

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    And not that it matters, but Jefferson get's an A+ (as stated); I'd give Duncan an A- to take into account his turnovers. His offensive play was sufficiently spectacular to bump him up into "A" (albeit the lower end) category. Again, just my opinion.

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    Tony Parker's defense on Nash in the second half was ideal.

    So much for that "Parker doesn't play defense" horse argument.
    The more Parker ages the more he likes playing awesome defense against back-to-back MVP's

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    it was a team win
    I just did not think duncan desered a grade tonight
    the other poster did

    duncan is better then what he did tonight with the turnovers

    this is a team game
    tp started it then manu then duncan and rj

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