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    Dont you believe I am free to believe that without the due process you hold so highly, any judgment is a useless exercise?

    Evidently not.
    Why is it useless?

    There is no way to decide such a status without asserting one has a status.

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    So he could be tried using a federal treason statute.

    OK.
    does he meet the required elements, Judge Chump?

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    Why is it useless?

    There is no way to decide such a status without asserting one has a status.
    useless to me.

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    I trust the courts. Why do you hate the rule of law, Chump?

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    he sounds like a great example. Has due process been applied? yes or no.
    Padilla was tried and convicted in a Federal courtroom.

    Please catch up.

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    he sounds like a great example. Has due process been applied? yes or no.

    Answer: sounds like a combatant to me.
    Would you say the following applies to Padilla?

    whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason
    Yes or no.

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    I trust the courts. Why do you hate the rule of law, Chump?
    I do trust the federal courts. That's why I feel the great majority of terror cases can and have been tried there.

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    newsflash: 1. I couldnt remember the facts surrounding padilla, 2. I dont know the topic of conversation, 3. I dont know what the OP is, 4. I decided early on that I was going to play this out and see how long I could dance.

    Two takeaway points: 1. without a refresh, my number is now up. and 2. Chump's approach to debate is a circle jerk that can be mastered by tin-foilers, and requires little to no actual knowledge or skill.

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    newsflash: 1. I couldnt remember the facts surrounding padilla, 2. I dont know the topic of conversation, 3. I dont know what the OP is, 4. I decided early on that I was going to play this out and see how long I could dance.
    Yes, you were "just kidding."

    Two takeaway points: 1. without a refresh, my number is now up. and 2. Chump's approach to debate is a circle jerk that can be mastered by tin-foilers, and requires little to no actual knowledge or skill.
    Sorry it exposed you. I'd be trying to make excuses as well if I were you.

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    Yes, you were "just kidding."

    Sorry it exposed you. I'd be trying to make excuses as well if I were you.
    not at all. I told you from the start I didnt know about Padilla. I entered the fray to practice your drunken monkey/ask questions till exhaustion technique. I proved that it works.

    You must have honed that over years, Chump. Its pretty damn good, actually. It definitely has its place on a political debate forum.

    It helped that you guys didnt know how to delineate criminal law from the acts of an enemy combatant.

    Or did you, drunken monkey? (Im sure you did, you just wouldnt reveal your hand. Your pretty good chump)

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    I trust the courts. Why do you hate the rule of law, Chump?


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    It helped that you guys didnt know how to delineate criminal law from the acts of an enemy combatant.
    You didn't explain it either but stood firm on fiat.



    ("Do as I say not as I do")

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    not at all. I told you from the start I didnt know about Padilla. I entered the fray to practice your drunken monkey/ask questions till exhaustion technique. I proved that it works.

    You must have honed that over years, Chump. Its pretty damn good, actually. It definitely has its place on a political debate forum.

    It helped that you guys didnt know how to delineate criminal law from the acts of an enemy combatant.

    Or did you, drunken monkey? (Im sure you did, you just wouldnt reveal your hand. Your pretty good chump)
    The only thing one can get from that post is you still dont' know what you are talking about .

    My questions are not meant to exhaust. Sorry you find simple questions so exhausting. Must be difficult for you.

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    "A federal jury convicted Ahmed Ghailani of one count of conspiracy to destroy U.S. property..."

    Sounds like he spray painted the statue of liberty

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    20 years to life. The system works.

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    20 years to life. The system works.
    Bull

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    Why is it bull ?

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    Ghailani was convicted and must go to prison for a long time. How is that a failure?

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    The only thing one can get from that post is you still dont' know what you are talking about .

    My questions are not meant to exhaust. Sorry you find simple questions so exhausting. Must be difficult for you.
    you old drunken monkey you

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    You didn't explain it either but stood firm on fiat.



    ("Do as I say not as I do")
    fiat happens.

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    You two jerk each other off some more. He is a terrorist that helped attacked a US embassy and killed hundreds of innocent people. Barry and Holder pulled him out of his military jail to show how great our US court system is and fully expected this man to be convicted on all the charges brought before this murdering bas . They failed. He was aquitted on all charges except conspiracy to destroy some US property. Give it a rest.

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    You two jerk each other off some more. He is a terrorist that helped attacked a US embassy and killed hundreds of innocent people. Barry and Holder pulled him out of his military jail to show how great our US court system is and fully expected this man to be convicted on all the charges brought before this murdering bas . They failed. He was aquitted on all charges except conspiracy to destroy some US property. Give it a rest.
    He is going to get at least 20 years, probably much more.

    If he is given a life sentence, how would that result be any different from a life sentence for another charge?

    Please be specific and stop fantasizing about us.

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    He is going to get at least 20 years, probably much more.

    If he is given a life sentence, how would that result be any different from a life sentence for another charge?

    Please be specific and stop fantasizing about us.
    I'm disgusted by the thought of you two jacking each other off.

    Justice was not served. She turned her eyes away from the murders of over 200 people and are telling the likes of you and the rest of the world "Well, we got him for 20 years to life on destroying some property" Barry and Holder failed.

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    He is going to get at least 20 years, probably much more.

    If he is given a life sentence, how would that result be any different from a life sentence for another charge?

    Please be specific and stop fantasizing about us.
    The guy rented the truck and bought the explosives. Hundreds were killed and maimed.

    If you think justice has been served by Holders guys getting their ass kicked on 200+ murder counts and only getting a cheesy vandalism charge to stick then we will just have to disagree on this one.

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