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    Too bad the abusive conditions of Ghailani's detention ed so much of the evidence against him, huh?

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    Too bad the abusive conditions of Ghailani's detention ed so much of the evidence against him, huh?
    Yeah, a bullet in the back of the head and SSS would have been more appropriate.

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    POW conditions would've been much more appropriate than that IMO.

    My own personal preference is to prosecute them all.

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    I'm disgusted by the thought of you two jacking each other off.
    You're the one having the thought. Have you pondered that?

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    I'm disgusted by the thought of you two jacking each other off.
    Why do you think about it so much? I mean you think about men having sex with each other all the time and describe it in graphic detail. Why?

    Justice was not served. She turned her eyes away from the murders of over 200 people and are telling the likes of you and the rest of the world "Well, we got him for 20 years to life on destroying some property" Barry and Holder failed.
    Actually it's telling the rest of the world we didn't have to make a kangaroo court to convict this terrorist. It's not like we were going to let him go scott free like those cleared in military trials have been. If anything, this conviction at least gives a veneer of legitimacy to his continued imprisonment, which was a fait accompli.

    The guy rented the truck and bought the explosives. Hundreds were killed and maimed.

    If you think justice has been served by Holders guys getting their ass kicked on 200+ murder counts and only getting a cheesy vandalism charge to stick then we will just have to disagree on this one.
    Yes, I believe in the American system of justice and you do not.
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    Yes, I believe in the American system of justice and you do not.
    Obnoxiously sanctimonious and overly simplified. Another Chump special.

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    This is what you said you believe.
    Yeah, a bullet in the back of the head and SSS would have been more appropriate.
    Or was that "just jokes"?

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    he sounds like a great example. Has due process been applied? yes or no.

    Answer: sounds like a combatant to me.
    Define what a combatant is, then. Your original criteria doesn't seem to fit his case.

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    Obnoxiously sanctimonious and overly simplified. Another Chump special.
    Actually it's not too uncommon.

    Think of where you're posting, CC, and then of who you are. You resemble this remark.

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    It helped that you guys didnt know how to delineate criminal law from the acts of an enemy combatant.
    You didn't prove that you knew anything about it; you merely asserted you did. Feel free to point out the relevant clauses of the Geneva Conventions and/or US common law to make your point though.

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    A bullet to the head would have been better than this bull .

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    You two jerk each other off some more. He is a terrorist that helped attacked a US embassy and killed hundreds of innocent people. Barry and Holder pulled him out of his military jail to show how great our US court system is and fully expected this man to be convicted on all the charges brought before this murdering bas . They failed. He was aquitted on all charges except conspiracy to destroy some US property. Give it a rest.
    If all of this information is well-known, how come we weren't able to produce the required evidence?

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    Yeah, a bullet in the back of the head and SSS would have been more appropriate.
    Conservatives! Always fighting back against Big Government for the little guy! Always mindful of excessive executive power! Protector of the Rule of Law!

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    Why do you think about it so much? I mean you think about men having sex with each other all the time and describe it in graphic detail. Why?

    Your gayness is all over this forum.


    Actually it's telling the rest of the world we didn't have to make a kangaroo court to convict this terrorist. It's not like we were going to let him go scott free like those cleared in military trials have been. If anything, this conviction at least gives a veneer of legitimacy to his continued imprisonment, which was a fait accompli.
    Actually it's not. It does continue to shows we have weak and stupid leadership. Barry and Holder failed. You know this. They got the guy on one of the charges they brought against him and failed on the hundreds of others. You keep thinking they did a great job and the world is a better place to live in because of their decision. I'm sure you cheered when the verdicts came down you sick er.

    America failed all those victims and their families from all over the world. This guy is not going down for the murder of all those innocent people but for destroying some property.

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    If all of this information is well-known, how come we weren't able to produce the required evidence?
    Why don't you quit playing politics for moment. The guy is guilty of a of alot more than destroying some property. He helped killed hundreds of innocent people.

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    Actually it's not. It does continue to shows we have weak and stupid leadership. Barry and Holder failed. You know this. They got the guy on one of the charges they brought against him and failed on the hundreds of others. You keep thinking they did a great job and the world is a better place to live in because of their decision. I'm sure you cheered when the verdicts came down you sick er.
    Being stupid and weak is getting rid of our strongest asset, our American ideals. Any ty-ass dictator-led country can produce convictions with torture.

    If he did all this stuff, where's the proof? If it's marred by advanced interrogation... well, there's a reason why we don't allow that kind of stuff in courts, because it produces bogus results.

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    Why don't you quit playing politics for moment. The guy is guilty of a of alot more than destroying some property. He helped killed hundreds of innocent people.
    He probably is. He's probably a de able s bag, who (if I believed in it) would rot in .

    But I don't know that for sure. I haven't reviewed the evidence. And for the jury that DID review the evidence, they apparently didn't have enough proof either.

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    Your gayness is all over this forum.
    Actually, your thoughts of and graphic descriptions of gay sex are all over this forum.

    Why?


    Actually it's not. It does continue to shows we have weak and stupid leadership. Barry and Holder failed. You know this. They got the guy on one of the charges they brought against him and failed on the hundreds of others. You keep thinking they did a great job and the world is a better place to live in because of their decision. I'm sure you cheered when the verdicts came down you sick er.
    I don't know what kind of job they did. I did not watch the trial as it took place. Did you? Tell us all what it was like.

    America failed all those victims and their families from all over the world. This guy is not going down for the murder of all those innocent people but for destroying some property.
    You didn't tell us all how a life sentence for this charge would be such a different result from a life sentence from a different charge.

    You must be too busy thinking about men having sex.

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    He probably is. He's probably a de able, who (if I believed in it) would rot in .

    But I don't know that for sure. I haven't reviewed the evidence. And for the jury that DID review the evidence, they apparently didn't have enough proof either.
    That's how courts work.

    Even military tribunals.

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    That's how courts work.

    Even military tribunals.
    Per most conservatives, there seems to be no need for courts. They are always assured of all GTMO detainees' guilt; having a trial just wastes unnecessary time and money. (And God forbid, may even find them not guilty! Can't have that happening!)

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    Per most conservatives, there seems to be no need for courts. They are always assured of all GTMO detainees' guilt; having a trial just wastes unnecessary time and money. (And God forbid, may even find them not guilty! Can't have that happening!)
    Hey, they got 4000 US servicemen and women killed on a hunch. It's obvious they just want to feel tough by proxy.

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    BTW, what ed up the case for the prosecutor was that they couldn't use a key witness testimony since that person was shipped to couple of secret prisons and his testimony was presumed to have been obtained through torture, which obviously makes it unusable in a court of law.

    You can thank the Bushies for that one.

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    What a bunch of ups we have in here. This is not tv's Perry Mason, Mattlock or whatever delusional world some of you guys live in. This is not a game nor should be some political game you chose sides to be on. This guy helped kill over 200 people. Some seem to miss that entire point .

    Some of you creeps are worried about some massive killer rights just makes me sick. He gave them up. This is the dude who blew people up. He gets nothing. Most people and I mean like 95% of the world would ing destroy this guy right there on the spot. Barry is a ing prick and decided to waste a bunch more money and show the world just how ing dumb he really is.

    Barry puts him on a civilian trial where the laws are bit different. Civilians deciding what obvious is a military matter. ing crazy ass mother ing civilians. The guy blew up a freaken US embassy in Africa killing hundreds of people from all around the world and one dude on the jury decides this guys fate and says he is innocent. That's it. I would say I was shocked but this what we said would happen if you put some freaks fate in the hands of 10-12 random people plucked from thin air.

    One freaken guy and some of you are cool with this. In fact some of you freaken love it.The terrorist is found guilty on 1 freaken charge out of hundreds and some of you jump up and down as if justice was served. Some of you want to blast Bush, our military, our laws, our politics but defend a murderer. ing sad.

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    Your gayness is all over this forum.




    Actually it's not. It does continue to shows we have weak and stupid leadership. Barry and Holder failed. You know this. They got the guy on one of the charges they brought against him and failed on the hundreds of others. You keep thinking they did a great job and the world is a better place to live in because of their decision. I'm sure you cheered when the verdicts came down you sick er.

    America failed all those victims and their families from all over the world. This guy is not going down for the murder of all those innocent people but for destroying some property.
    so tell us how many more years he could serve if tried in a military tribunal? What is it going to be? 248 life sentences as opposed to one? 800 yrs vs 80?

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    Hey, they got 4000 US servicemen and women killed on a hunch. It's obvious they just want to feel tough by proxy.
    I heard they were still translating the do ents?

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