Bonner gets too many minutes for the Spurs to be successful

[SA210]

Your going to hold him to the gold-star standard? I'll cut him a little slack, and say out of those 21 running hooks/flips/set shots/whateverthe youwannacallits he didn't make, about 10 were good shots within the offense, and the other 10 were basically forced turnovers.

I was just saying he shouldn't be taking those shots off the dribble. It hardly ever turns out good.

[Mel_13]

Tends to happen when you've been posting for 13.5 hours straight.

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Just as opposing defenses fear Matty B.

[TJastal]

Spend 30 minutes a night here:
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Maybe when they restructure all the rules I'll bother with it.

Just as opposing defenses fear Matty B.

Ahh, Matt Barnes. Good comparison.

[Blackjack]

With all due respect to Chump, drink!

[Mel_13]

Maybe when they restructure all the rules I'll bother with it.

In the meantime you'll remain blissfully ignorant...

Ahh, Matt Barnes. Good comparison.

Drink!

[Agloco]

You got to love Tjastal's effort. Hes the Matt Bonner of Spurstalk, but without the jumshot.

And the legend grows......

You never have to wait very long for a gem to appear with that guy.

[jjktkk]

And the legend grows......

You never have to wait very long for a gem to appear with that guy.

So true. Rumor has it, that Tjastal is actually former Spurs coach Bob Hill.

[KaiRMD1]

I think Bonner should only get a lot of minutes if he's hot but the second he jacks up a couple bricks, pop needs to bench. I'm sorry to say this but Bonner's only good use is when the guy is on fire on offense. Defense? Pop needs to work with him over the summer for that to improve. But if guy sucks on offense, it's time to go with the defensive big and put Splitter in. There's a reason that the guy was MVP of the Spanish league.

[dn0774]

I would rather see Bonner shoot a highly contested 3 than pumpfake>dribble penetration>shoot a running uncontested hook/floater in the lane.

Bonner should be used exclusively for 2 things...spreading the floor/heat check for 5 mins a half and giving hard fouls or antagonizing opposition (Danny Ferry style) when need be. If he catches fire then great, give him some extra run...other wise send him back to bench.

I actually think there is a small but important role for Bonner on this team and his presence can be an asset situationally speaking. He's the basketball equivalent of a pinch hitter.

[TJastal]

I would rather see Bonner shoot a highly contested 3 than pumpfake>dribble penetration>shoot a running uncontested hook/floater in the lane.

Bonner should be used exclusively for 2 things...spreading the floor/heat check for 5 mins a half and giving hard fouls or antagonizing opposition (Danny Ferry style) when need be. If he catches fire then great, give him some extra run...other wise send him back to bench.

I actually think there is a small but important role for Bonner on this team and his presence can be an asset situationally speaking. He's the basketball equivalent of a pinch hitter.

"hard foul" and "bonner" really aren't synergistic terms. "udoka" might be more fitting here.

[SenorSpur]

I would rather see Bonner shoot a highly contested 3 than pumpfake>dribble penetration>shoot a running uncontested hook/floater in the lane.

Bonner should be used exclusively for 2 things...spreading the floor/heat check for 5 mins a half and giving hard fouls or antagonizing opposition (Danny Ferry style) when need be. If he catches fire then great, give him some extra run...other wise send him back to bench.

I actually think there is a small but important role for Bonner on this team and his presence can be an asset situationally speaking. He's the basketball equivalent of a pinch hitter.

Obviously, the book is out on Bonner, as opponents are chasing him off the arc and forcing him to put the ball on the floor. Imagine the horror I felt when watching Bonner take a few dribbles inside the arc and shoot a double-clutch midrange shot. Or taking the ball across the lane and attempting a left-handed shot. Bonner isn't at his best taking creative shots.

[Agloco]

Obviously, the book is out on Bonner, as opponents are chasing him off the arc and forcing him to put the ball on the floor. Imagine the horror I felt when watching Bonner take a few dribbles inside the arc and shoot a double-clutch midrange shot. Or taking the ball across the lane and attempting a left-handed shot. Bonner isn't at his best taking creative shots.

Yeah anytime Bonner touches the ball for more than 2 seconds, disaster is sure to follow in short order.

[dn0774]

"hard foul" and "bonner" really aren't synergistic terms. "udoka" might be more fitting here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FASClJTnJ4I

3 mins 15 sec...he is capable of hard fouls.

[angelbelow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FASClJTnJ4I

3 mins 15 sec...he is capable of hard fouls.

Ive said this before, but I think a mean streak would really benefit him. Hes always joking around off court so Im not sure if he really has it in him.. but I would love to see Bonner commit some hard fouls on defense.

[99-03-05-07]

if bonner isn't making shots we should sit him, splitter is easily a better all-round player

[The Truth #6]

Hill could use a mean streak too. But then they probably wouldn't be Spurs.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Bonner deserves 2 minutes of play at the most. All he does is shoot 3's. Can't rebound either. Bench him Pop...............for the whole game. Please bring in Blair, Dice, or Splitter to eat up his minutes.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Well, I dunno about Blair.....

[Johnny RIngo]

Bonner deserves 2 minutes of play at the most. All he does is shoot 3's. Can't rebound either. Bench him Pop...............for the whole game. Please bring in Blair, Dice, or Splitter to eat up his minutes.

You're exaggerating if you think he only deserves 2 minutes. I'm not a fan of Bonner but he's useful for about 10-15 minutes and occasionally gives us a timely three against the weaker clubs. He should NOT be closing out games though. Unfortunately, Bonner has become something of a crutch for Pop who believes he'll make those threes every time he steps on the court.

[jjktkk]

you're exaggerating if you think he only deserves 2 minutes. I'm not a fan of bonner but he's useful for about 10-15 minutes and occasionally gives us a timely three against the weaker clubs. He should not be closing out games though. Unfortunately, bonner has become something of a crutch for pop who believes he'll make those threes every time he steps on the court.

+1

[angelbelow]

Hill could use a mean streak too. But then they probably wouldn't be Spurs.

Well, Hill doesnt really need a mean streak, he can contribute in many other ways.

At this point Bonner isnt going to suddenly become a better rebounder, a better defender, or a more well rounded scorer. Therefore, he should use his body as a tool and commit some hard fouls. Then maybe players won't light up with confidence when they're being defended by Bonner.

[ElNono]

Therefore, he should use his body as a tool and commit some hard fouls. Then maybe players won't light up with confidence when they're being defended by Bonner.

It's just not in him. It's not who he is. It's like asking Manu to suddenly start talking trash or Tim to start pounding his chest after every basket. There might be the occasional outburst, but in general people are who they are.

As a basketball player, I much rather Matt learns how to take charges. Splitter has already shown he knows how to do it. Horry had that down too. Oberto knew how to flop when needed also. I much rather he gets called for a foul trying to take a charge and draw a foul than do the ole walk backwards which pretty much always ends up on a foul on him, and sometimes with an and1 for the offensive player. That he can work on, and he can remain the nice guy he is.

[angelbelow]

It's just not in him. It's not who he is. It's like asking Manu to suddenly start talking trash or Tim to start pounding his chest after every basket. There might be the occasional outburst, but in general people are who they are.

As a basketball player, I much rather Matt learns how to take charges. Splitter has already shown he knows how to do it. Horry had that down too. Oberto knew how to flop when needed also. I much rather he gets called for a foul trying to take a charge and draw a foul than do the ole walk backwards which pretty much always ends up on a foul on him, and sometimes with an and1 for the offensive player. That he can work on, and he can remain the nice guy he is.

Manu does something that's more effective than talk trash. He gets under the skin of his opponents. Duncan does many things right and contributes in many areas, he doesnt need to pound his chest to be effective.

Taking charges is an art, its not something that can be easily learned. Players who lead the league in charges year after year are consistently the same.

I agree that he probably doesnt have it in him though, but imagine how much it would if Bonner had the enforcer label.

[jjktkk]

Manu does something that's more effective than talk trash. He gets under the skin of his opponents. Duncan does many things right and contributes in many areas, he doesnt need to pound his chest to be effective.

Taking charges is an art, its not something that can be easily learned. Players who lead the league in charges year after year are consistently the same.

I agree that he probably doesnt have it in him though, but imagine how much it would if Bonner had the enforcer label.

Or how about Bonner taking it to the rack and throwing one down?

[angelbelow]

Or how about Bonner taking it to the rack and throwing one down?

Committing a hard foul is easier than taking the ball to the rack and throwing it down, don't you think?