brady (patriots) loss

[LnGrrrR]

Brady did play terrible, tho. He was so indecisive with the football it was ridiculous. The coverage was good, but every replay I saw Brady had a reasonably open man. An elite QB is supposed to make those thread the needle passes, and he was too scared to even try them half the time. at least 3 of those sacks were on Brady.

Agreed.

[BUMP]

perfect example of why its bull to call Manning a choker, bad leader, etc... despite having had plenty of solid performances in the playoffs that still resulted in losses (similar to what Brady had in this game). gotta have a complete team to win consistently in the playoffs. it was clear that the patriots defense was lacking immensely, as well as a mediocre receiving core. overall, brady actually put together a good performance, and while he had a couple mistakes, he still did what he could to keep his team in a position to win, while despite the mistakes the defense had made all day, they continued to make mistakes and up any further chances of Brady leading them to victory.

despite these two guys going out in their first games this year, they both in their respective games, did what they could to put their teams in a position to win (despite whatever mistakes they personally made in the game - in Mannings situation, trying to audible to force the run game to work, in Brady's situation, the turnovers), which what your QB is supposed to do.

best two QBs of all time. hopefully we can get one more chance to see them have an epic playoff duel

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PUTS IT IN!!!!!

[BUMP]

The defense is the youngest in the league and they've shown a ton of potential. They've also choked hard 2 years in a row in the playoffs. I don't know what to make of that.

I do know that now Belichick has absolutely no excuse if he doesn't bring in a top notch pass rusher. Two straight years of Tully Banta got Cain doing jack isn't cutting it. Cunningham isn't ready, and in the end he'll be a nice player but certainly not the sack machine we need.

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BANKS IT IN!!!!

[Phillip]

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WITH THE FACIAL!!!!!!!!!

[Fabbs]

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With the Jerk OFF!!!

[monosylab1k]

In all honesty, Elway >> Manning and Brady, but ya, I agree that those guys are pretty good..

LOLOLOLOLOL he's the most overrated QB in NFL history. Statistically that's already been proven, without a doubt. And as far as his legacy, he was "the guy who gets curbstomped in the Super Bowl" until he got lucky and the entire NFL had a 5 year window where franchises struggled with the new salary cap era (something the Broncos flat out cheated to cir vent), and Terrell Davis came along.

I can name at least 25 QB's in NFL history I'll take before John Elway. , I might get to 30 or 40.

[Phillip]

LOLOLOLOLOL he's the most overrated QB in NFL history. Statistically that's already been proven, without a doubt. And as far as his legacy, he was "the guy who gets curbstomped in the Super Bowl" until he got lucky and the entire NFL had a 5 year window where franchises struggled with the new salary cap era (something the Broncos flat out cheated to cir vent), and Terrell Davis came along.

I can name at least 25 QB's in NFL history I'll take before John Elway. , I might get to 30 or 40.

LOL now that's kinda stretching it. But yes, he does get quite overrated by a lot of people.

[monosylab1k]

Not a ranking, just a list of 25 guys I'll take over Elway.

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Young
6. Staubach
7. Rodgers
8. Warner
9. Favre
10. Kelly
11. McNair
12. Aikman
13. Cunningham
14. Esiason
15. Moon
16. Rivers
17. Gannon
18. Tarkenton
19. Fouts
20. Unitas
21. Namath
22. Theismann
23. Griese
24. Bradshaw
25. Brees

[Wilford Brimley]

Not a ranking, just a list of 25 guys I'll take over Elway.

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Young
6. Staubach
7. Rodgers
8. Warner
9. Favre
10. Kelly
11. McNair
12. Aikman
13. Cunningham
14. Esiason
15. Moon
16. Rivers
17. Gannon
18. Tarkenton
19. Fouts
20. Unitas
21. Namath
22. Theismann
23. Griese
24. Bradshaw
25. Brees

det's a good one!

[monosylab1k]

det's a good one!

[Wilford Brimley]

scrah he was a good player, but to put him ahead of Elway is re ed

[Phillip]

Not a ranking, just a list of 25 guys I'll take over Elway.

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Young
6. Staubach
7. Rodgers
8. Warner
9. Favre
10. Kelly
11. McNair
12. Aikman
13. Cunningham
14. Esiason
15. Moon
16. Rivers
17. Gannon
18. Tarkenton
19. Fouts
20. Unitas
21. Namath
22. Theismann
23. Griese
24. Bradshaw
25. Brees

if you wanna talk about overrated, this guy is the most overrated player in NFL history.

[BUMP]

Not a ranking, just a list of 25 guys I'll take over Elway.

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Young
6. Staubach
7. Rodgers
8. Warner
9. Favre
10. Kelly
11. McNair
12. Aikman
13. Cunningham
14. Esiason
15. Moon
16. Rivers
17. Gannon
18. Tarkenton
19. Fouts
20. Unitas
21. Namath
22. Theismann
23. Griese
24. Bradshaw
25. Brees

I'm sure you'd love this article

http://broncotalk.net/2010/10/18590/...spots-too-low/

[lefty]

The Pats went out because Brady played like garbage too. Were his numbers decent? Sure. But apart from the first two drives, and the TD scoring one, they couldn't move the ball when it mattered.

Fwiw, Belichick got outcoached too.

Rex Ryan just figured that blitzing doesnt work vs NE

Solid coverage worked

[monosylab1k]

scrah he was a good player, but to put him ahead of Elway is re ed

What exactly did Elway do besides get lucky and ride a hot RB who was as good as any RB in NFL history for a 2 year stretch?

[monosylab1k]

I'm sure you'd love this article

http://broncotalk.net/2010/10/18590/...spots-too-low/

Elway made the Broncos relevant and dangerous for 16 straight years.

Well, except for 85, 88, 90, 92, 94, and 95. But in all fairness 10 out of 16 years is pretty decent until you factor in that they were a big "lol 55-10" and "lol 35 points in a quarter" and "Denver owns Cleveland but lol because every sports team on earth owns Cleveland" laughingstocks until Terrell Davis came along.

[DarrinS]

Wow. Nice job giving the Jets absolutely ZERO credit for having a good game plan. There's a reason that Brady was holding on to the ball for such a long time.

[monosylab1k]

Wow. Nice job giving the Jets absolutely ZERO credit for having a good game plan. There's a reason that Brady was holding on to the ball for such a long time.

Knew your bandwagoning ass was bound to show up. Can't wait to see you not post in the NFL Forum for 6 months once the Steelers push your team's in.

[BUMP]

Wow. Nice job giving the Jets absolutely ZERO credit for having a good game plan. There's a reason that Brady was holding on to the ball for such a long time.

The Jets played good defense sure, but Brady has to be able to make those tight throws which he is capable of making.

I think part of the problem is that all season they've been so good at gameplanning that they've been able to get guys like Woodhead and Welker matched up against the wrong guys on defense therefore they're always wide open.

[monosylab1k]

Athough imho the ideal scenario would be for the Jets to kick Pittsburgh's ass and then get their pushed in by Green Bay.

[DarrinS]

Knew your bandwagoning ass was bound to show up. Can't wait to see you not post in the NFL Forum for 6 months once the Steelers push your team's in.

Man, someone is butthurt.

[monosylab1k]

The Jets played good defense sure, but Brady has to be able to make those tight throws which he is capable of making.

I think part of the problem is that all season they've been so good at gameplanning that they've been able to get guys like Woodhead and Welker matched up against the wrong guys on defense therefore they're always wide open.

Brady spent all game long looking to hit home runs instead of settling for a load of singles. Which has been his undoing in playoff games since The Game We Don't Speak Of.

[monosylab1k]

Man, someone is butthurt.

Man, someone is frontrunning.

[DarrinS]

Athough imho the ideal scenario would be for the Jets to kick Pittsburgh's ass and then get their pushed in by Green Bay.

By the way, nice temper tantrum. Weren't you the same guy who kept posting the 45-3 score in my face?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170462

[monosylab1k]

Weren't you the same guy who kept posting the 45-3 score in my face?

I highly doubt that since it's unlikely you showed your face in the NFL Forum after 45-3.