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Remember when the Spurs' smallball lineups routinely got raped and their big rotation was so weak that Pops Mensah Bonsu was actually an improvement?
Just from what I remember:
James White
Luis Scola
Pops Mensah Bonsu
Ian Mahinmi
Tiago Splitter
That was the future of the Spurs to some people on these boards and none of them succeeded because Pop is a horrible coattail riding coach. lol
Oh and that Javtokas guy.
Remember when the Spurs' smallball lineups routinely got raped and their big rotation was so weak that Pops Mensah Bonsu was actually an improvement?
Remember when he played he made absolutely no impact even with a horrid big rotation?
Dude, he dunked that time.
You gotta look at the minutes to tell me how many games Ian has played better than Haywood? Ok then do it?
I like Ian's game and I'm positive he'll be a serviceable player for someone in the near future. He will end up being a solid rotational big for someone in the mold of Serge Ibaka.
Dallas put themselves in a position where they have to play Haywood more minutes than he should be getting because they signed him to that ridiculous contract.
Well if you are positive he'll be serviceable then I'm sold.
I can 100% guarantee you that if there were no Ian threads, there would be no sarcastic retorts in them. You invite them by pining over a bottom 10% NBA player that's no longer here. You throw bait in the water, and then cry when the fish bite. WTF?
Now, my day is officially complete.
Like mine was the day they didn't pick up his option.Now, my day is officially complete.
he'll only be able to accomplish that if he does well in practice - right coach gonzo?
I forgot to ask you how Tiago was doing in the Spurs' practices this year. I hope he's hustling and showing Pop that he wants to earn more playing time during their scrimmages - that is when he's healthy again.
to answer your question - every game that either player has played more than 20 minutes, Ian has better stats.
To the rest of the Ian haters (unbelievable - given how humble of a guy that he is) - where do you rank the Spurs' frontcourt over the past 4 years - top 5? top 10?
sorry, but Pops was a welcome sight because he didn't show fear - not because he could dunk. I think some Spurs fans were tired of the bigs getting their layups blocked time after time and wanted to see someone force a bucket instead. Pops had a short stint, but didn't do too bad - Gooden was better and that was the better option for the Spurs at that time it seems.
Ian is a really nice kid and I'm sorry if you get bent by his apologists, but the fact is that he's in a good enough situation that there's even a story to be written about him. Over the past 2 years, Ian has done the best he can when given the minutes - hard not to like a guy like that. I'm glad Ian has the opportunity he does this year, but I still wish he would have have done more with the Spurs.
I also can't say with certainty that our front court is formidable enough for the playoffs yet - I like what I see out of Blair, but Tiago's way behind and there IS NO FREAKING WAY THAT WE GO TO THE FINALS WITH MATT BONNER PLAYING 20 MPG IN THE PLAYOFFS. He's a 3 point shooter - not a big that's going to help our defense in the playoffs.
Absolutely. For an end of the bench player trying to earn some minutes, practice is where to go balls out and show the coach what is being learned and what you can bring. But for some reason none of you internet "coaches" that know better than a future hall of fame head coach seem to understand that basic principle.
So go ahead and come back with your "but he scored 19pts against the Nets that one time" argument.
They're putting up similar numbers for the season, but Mahinmi's doing it in half the minutes. Again, the only thing keeping Haywood in the rotation at all is his bloated contract.
Mahimni will never go away on here. Maybe we need a Official All Ian, All The Time thread.
As bent out of shape as so many of you seem to get at a single thread, that would probably cause heads to explode.
Were it only a single thread.
Sorry, but I never been to a practice during the regular season - can you tell me what goes on during practice? You have been to the Spurs practices correct?
If I comment on one of Ian's games, it's because there is actual performance metrics instead of what I suppose happens during that game.
Ibaka did more at age 20 than Ian has done in any season up to age 24.
While I do think Ian can be a solid rotation guy, if you set the over/under of his best future season at Ibaka's age 21 (this) season - 9 pts, 7 reb, 2 blocks per game - I'm taking the under.
or what about George Hill in his first year. Pop opted to go with Vaughn. How'd that work out? and was it because Hill did bad in practice...
Or Strephen Jacksn in his first year with SA. iirc he was on the IR the whole year. or Tiago this year.
Pop is a great coach, but he isn't infallable an his history has shown that quite clearly.
half the people in this thread posting are morons and have no business trying to make a point. how many of you guys thought re-signing RJ was a good thing and would result in making the Spurs contenders this year? that's right. none of you es. so eat it and stfu and listen to the people who've gotten right the majority of the time like this guy. i don't mean to sound like a bag, but it's hilarious how convincing some of you guys try to sound when you've been wrong on close to everything. it's like, for some of you, being right about Ian is your last shred of hope to get something right. You're starting to see that that isn't the case and you got sand in your pussy now.
lol single thread
lol mad
I understand why you think Ian is in the rotation now. You actually have no concept of what numbers mean.
Hill played 17 mpg as a rookie, appearing in 77 games (Vaughn only appeared in 30 games playing 9 mpg) - it's not like he was banished to the bench. Now, he didn't start off in the playoff rotation - which was a mistake, but we weren't beating Dallas without Manu regardless.
Jackson's first year wasn't a mistake, it was a success story. Coming off a troubled year in Jersey, he needed some time to just learn how to play the game and earn his stripes. I don't think there is a chance in that we get '03 Jax if we don't sit '02 Jax.
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