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    That's what I'm saying. How hard can it be to plug Brewer into D'Antoni's system over a guy like Jared Jeffries? And in a backup role in NY, at that.
    Perhaps because NY needs shooters, specifically corner 3 shooters. Brewer wont be mistaken for one anytime soon. One lone defender on the perimeter wont help that squad as much as his offensive liabilities will hurt them.

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    Question: Is Brewer the son of former Spurs Ron Brewer?
    No.

    Ron Brewer's son is Ronnie Brewer playing for the Bulls?

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    Question: Is Brewer the son of former Spurs Ron Brewer?
    Nope...Ron Brewer's son, Ronnie, actually plays for the Bulls, IIRC.

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    No.

    Ron Brewer's son is Ronnie Brewer playing for the Bulls?
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    Nope...Ron Brewer's son, Ronnie, actually plays for the Bulls, IIRC.
    Bulls this year. Was on the Jazz for a few years, then the Grizzlies for a few games.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/.../ronnie-brewer

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    What am I missing about Brewer?

    The Knicks would prefer to go with Jeffries instead of CB because D'Antoni is more familiar.
    The Lakers could use him but we haven't heard of their interest.
    The Bulls are preferring to go after Butler and his scoring potential over adding more defense and potential chemistry with their roster and Noah.
    As far as the Knicks go, here is a nice analysis from NYTimes a few days ago:

    http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.c...pth/?src=twrhp

    Basically Brewer has no offense but still takes shots he shouldn't.

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    Henry Abbott, TrueHoop on Brewer and his release from the Knicks:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post?id=25595
    In light of reading Abbott's piece and seeing these advanced stats on Brewer's defensive impact, this simply confirms what many have suspected - that this guy is a burgeoning defensive stud - perhaps in a Bowenesque mold.

    All of which should make Spurs fans want this guy even more. This the type of defender the Spurs have needed ever since Bowen left the building. I can only imagine how much better of a defender he will become with some solid coaching and the structured culture that the Spurs can offer. That, along with some continued hard work on his offensive game, would only help him blossom as a well-rounded player.

    Despite his paltry offense, I'm convinced that he'd instantly become the Spurs best individual defender. Factor in that he's only 24 years old and he'd be an outstanding get for our Spurs.

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    In light of reading Abbott's piece and seeing these advanced stats on Brewer's defensive impact, this simply confirms what many have suspected - that this guy is a burgeoning defensive stud - perhaps in a Bowenesque mold.

    All of which should make Spurs fans want this guy even more. This the type of defender the Spurs have needed ever since Bowen left the building. I can only imagine how much better of a defender he will become with some solid coaching and the structured culture that the Spurs can offer. That, along with some continued hard work on his offensive game, would only help him blossom as a well-rounded player.

    Despite his paltry offense, I'm convinced that he'd instantly become the Spurs best individual defender. Factor in that he's only 24 years old and he'd be an outstanding get for our Spurs.


    I read that article and started drooling. He sounds like the perfect guy to insert in our system and start shutting down opposing wing scorers.

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    If you get Brewer, it allows you to sell high on Gary Neal in the offseason.

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    In light of reading Abbott's piece and seeing these advanced stats on Brewer's defensive impact, this simply confirms what many have suspected - that this guy is a burgeoning defensive stud - perhaps in a Bowenesque mold.

    All of which should make Spurs fans want this guy even more. This the type of defender the Spurs have needed ever since Bowen left the building. I can only imagine how much better of a defender he will become with some solid coaching and the structured culture that the Spurs can offer. That, along with some continued hard work on his offensive game, would only help him blossom as a well-rounded player.

    Despite his paltry offense, I'm convinced that he'd instantly become the Spurs best individual defender. Factor in that he's only 24 years old and he'd be an outstanding get for our Spurs.
    Exactly. I think someone else pointed out trying to get Brewer to be a Bowen-like "3 and D"-type where the points come as a bonus to his defensive prowess. Take the solid wing defense and 6-8 points and he's a positive for whomever picks him up.

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    If you get Brewer, it allows you to sell high on Gary Neal in the offseason.
    For the $ Neal is a bargain, not sure why you want to get rid of him. Now George Hill or JA, thats another matter in itself..

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    Because this is Mike D'Antoni we are talking about. If you are a wingman who can't shoot 3s in every way imaginable, you can't play for him.

    Isiah may be gone, but the length of questionable decisions made by this organization keeps growing. If the Knicks ownership and management honestly think that D'Antoni's philosophy and approach are going to result in championship success, even after having empirical evidence to the contrary, then they are drunk on their own hubris.

    I guess it's a moot point because they sunk huge money into bringing him in to coach the Knicks in the first place.

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    For the $ Neal is a bargain, not sure why you want to get rid of him. Now George Hill or JA, thats another matter in itself..

    George Hill James Anderson > Gary Neal


    Both are better defenders and more versatile.

    Neal brings shooting and.......

    Plus Anderson is younger, more athletic.


    Sell high on Neal package with a draft pick for a higher draft pick or whatever.

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    Exactly. I think someone else pointed out trying to get Brewer to be a Bowen-like "3 and D"-type where the points come as a bonus to his defensive prowess. Take the solid wing defense and 6-8 points and he's a positive for whomever picks him up.
    With the added benefit of being 6'9 instead of Bowen 6'7. Bowen was often giving up height and weight on many SF. Brewer could guard Dirk/James/Melo/Odom types?

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    If he bulked up more possibly, but James and Dirk, hes a tad spindly.

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    I hope he goes to SA

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    Neal isn't going anywhere. Pop has found his Eddie House style gunner and he's not giving him away.

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    Just don't get your hopes up because the Mavs apparently are trying to sell him on being a starter, something Pop would never promise. And they can pay more although from what I've read, not significantly more.

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    George Hill James Anderson > Gary Neal


    Both are better defenders and more versatile.

    Neal brings shooting and.......

    Plus Anderson is younger, more athletic.


    Sell high on Neal package with a draft pick for a higher draft pick or whatever.
    Recall the one of the shortcomings of last year's Spurs team was a severe lack of outside shooting. I see what you're saying, but to suggest that the Spurs discard Neal, who is probably the best shooter on the team, even with Anderson and Bonner on board, doesn't make a lot of sense.

    Besides, the way the organization feels about Neal and the manner in which Pop has evolved their offensive philosophy, I doubt that he believes he can ever have too many shooters.

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    Someone has to be thinned out then.

    There is literally not enough minutes to go around.

    Hill and Anderson are way too talented to be shuffled off to 12th man land.

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    I wonder why Spurs fans don't shove trophies in the faces of Laker or Celtic fans.... oh wait, I do!

    Celtic...

    x 17


    Lakers...

    x 17

    and most of the celtics les came when the spurs were not even an ABA team yet. the lakers have had about 8 since that time. so why compare to the older franchises when the real comparisons are to the ones that have been around about the same length of time ?

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    Wait... Can't we make him a starter? Why not? Jefferson can come off the bench for all I care. Jefferson is by far the LEAST productive out of our starters and he has not stepped it up on defense. Why not start Brewer if we got him?

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    George Hill James Anderson > Gary Neal


    Both are better defenders and more versatile.

    Neal brings shooting and.......

    Plus Anderson is younger, more athletic.


    Sell high on Neal package with a draft pick for a higher draft pick or whatever.
    Neal is a player. Give him minutes and he in' just produces. He never once played like a rookie...he just went out there and did it. Reminds me a bit of a young Sam Cassell...Cassell had no in' business being out there...yet he swaggered out there and showed NO IN' RESPECT for anyone and just lighted up their asses...Neal is like this...

    Neal: "You can't make a shot you don't take.''



    Hill & Anderson are projects with some potential.

    (See Nash schooling Hill in last years playoffs for a hint of Hill's future--hence the project label-he might improve if given time)

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    Well jefferson is the least consistent I'll say.

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    James Anderson > Gary Neal

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