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  1. #151
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    Well life was perfect/like heaven in the garden of eden. Till women and man decided to disobey God by eating from the forbidden tree(why he put it there in the fist place..who knows). I assume god wanted to treat us to riches and great things. But that sin thing you know. So god was like "yo u cant obey simple rules?...fine now you and your offspring have to work for your riches and earn your way to heaven from now on" Course that's just what I get from the bible. Dunno how it holds true.
    Many cultures depict God as a trickster. Hermes, Pan, Loki, oh my.

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    so if you die in the next 60 seconds will you jump to one side?
    if everyone said yes, would that do it for you?

    no need to answer. rhetorical.

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    Well life was perfect/like heaven in the garden of eden. Till women and man decided to disobey God by eating from the forbidden tree(why he put it there in the fist place..who knows). I assume god wanted to treat us to riches and great things. But that sin thing you know. So god was like "yo u cant obey simple rules?...fine now you and your offspring have to work for your riches and earn your way to heaven from now on" Course that's just what I get from the bible. Dunno how it holds true.
    so do you think sin is possible in Heaven?

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    Not knowing does not even remotely imply not knowable.

    How exactly is a rainbow made. How exactly does the sun set? How does a positronic rear end on a Plymouth work?
    Yet, god or love or whatever name one uses to describe the same thing...

    is not within the realm of the human mind...so for human beings---this territory is pretty much unknowable...

    and it has been unknowable throughout the history of human beings...

    and oh how many have been killed by those who thought they knew....

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    You want me to murder you to prove something? why not just wait till you die so you can finally see for yourself, Try to think of ways you can maybe speed up that glorious day.

    After all when you die I am sure you will get the answers you crave.

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    Yet, god or love or whatever name one uses to describe the same thing...

    is not within the realm of the human mind...so for human beings---this territory is pretty much unknowable...

    and it has been unknowable throughout the history of human beings...

    and oh how many have been killed by those who thought they knew....
    how do you know something unknowable is unknowable.

    lol paradoxical crap.

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    You want me to murder you to prove something?
    murdering me would only prove you are a butthurt murderer.

    why not just wait till you die so you can finally see for yourself, Try to think of ways you can maybe speed up that glorious day.

    After all when you die I am sure you will get the answers you crave.
    I'd rather creation honks prove the existence of god while I'm still alive, thanks.

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    I'm on the fence as to if there is a god or not. It's hard for me to believe everything that has happened is just some accident. But if some one did create all this...who created them/it? Tricky.
    Some one said "god let this happen" referring to bad things on this earth. Natural disasters and crimes..etc. Well if God(if he is real) wanted to stop all the crime and bad things/EVIL on this earth wouldn't you think he would stop all evil? Everything immoral would be erased. Even little things like lying and thinking bad thoughts. Oh but no people want god to not let really bad things happen...but the not so bad things it's ok we can have those

    I would think god sees evil no matter how small it may appear to us. So god would have to erase killing,stealing,lying,cheating..etc. Who here can say has never done that. All of you have done at one of those. So you should be erased.

    However if you believe in the bible jesus died on the cross for all our sins pass present and future. That's if you believe that

    Some one listens to lecrae.



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    Think about it (those with the brain matter to do so) if you was God like and could create planets and mankind why not?

    We all need to keep from being bored. Why do you think there are so many useless planets? God or who ever responsible (could be more than one) had never created an earth so in order to get it right many planets needed to be placed in different distances from the sun. Mercury to close. Pluto to far etc...

    why everyone assumes (those that believe in God) think he was an expert at everything. Maybe he was doing this for the first time. Why must God (or who ever responsible) was born knowing everything at every time, wouldn't that suck? To know everything and everything that is going to happen? I rather not be a God it takes the fun out of living.

    And if there is a God why would you not want to enjoy your life?

    It doesn't make sense to be the most powerful thing ever and you hate yourself or your life.

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    you have made statements that alluded to the existance of a god:



    it is not for anyone to prove that a god does not exist.

    this point has been made ad nauseum.




    who are you to tell me I'm wrong.

    I believe in the concept of synergy. Screw you.
    The statements I made referred to god and love and truth as being one and the same thing....

    I don't imply to know if there is or isn't a god...but I do call god and love and truth the same things...maybe that confused you...

    If someone believes that god is a spirit in the shape of a man floating in the sky...that is ONLY his CONCEPT of what or who god is...

    If someone believes there is no god ...that is his CONCEPT of what god is not...

    If someone believes that god is not a separate en y or a creator...but rather a state of mind...(like love) then that is their CONCEPT of god and love...

    All of these come from the human mind and we will never know if they are right/wrong/ or half-right or half-wrong,etc...

    These concepts of god are only attempts by the human mind to explain something that is unexplainable....

    which would lead a reasonable person back to the "unknowable'' conclusion...

    it is pointless to try to prove that a god exists---since god might mean many different things to many different people to begin with...and we will never know anyway...

    it is also pointless to try and prove that a god DOES NOT exist...since we will go to our grave without knowing that also...

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    so do you think sin is possible in Heaven?
    good point. I have no idea tbh.




    Some one listens to lecrae.


    guilty, your fault

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    murdering me would only prove you are a butthurt murderer.
    Well then maybe someone else can do it, or you can do it yourself.
    I don't want to be labeled a "butthurt" individual just to help you achieve wisdom.



    I'd rather creation honks prove the existence of god while I'm still alive, thanks.
    I don't support creationism.

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    Think about it (those with the brain matter to do so) if you was God like and could create planets and mankind why not?

    We all need to keep from being bored. Why do you think there are so many useless planets? God or who ever responsible (could be more than one) had never created an earth so in order to get it right many planets needed to be placed in different distances from the sun. Mercury to close. Pluto to far etc...

    why everyone assumes (those that believe in God) think he was an expert at everything. Maybe he was doing this for the first time. Why must God (or who ever responsible) was born knowing everything at every time, wouldn't that suck? To know everything and everything that is going to happen? I rather not be a God it takes the fun out of living.

    And if there is a God why would you not want to enjoy your life?

    It doesn't make sense to be the most powerful thing ever and you hate yourself or your life.
    so you believe God is capable of boredom? Interesting.

    do you think God really cares about humans?

    do you think the bible is the right book?

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    The statements I made referred to god and love and truth as being one and the same thing....

    I don't imply to know if there is or isn't a god...but I do call god and love and truth the same things...maybe that confused you...
    right.

    How can you call those the same things without proof, but call out Christian preachers for being wrong?

    you're a hypocrite.

    If someone believes there is no god ...that is his CONCEPT of what god is not...
    wrong.

    it's his concept that something does not exist until proven otherwise.

    it is pointless to try to prove that a god exists---since god might mean many different things to many different people to begin with...and we will never know anyway...
    absolutely wrong.

    It would absolutely be a great thing to prove the existence of a god. Then we would not have many different people believing many different things.

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    Yet, god or love or whatever name one uses to describe the same thing...

    is not within the realm of the human mind...so for human beings---this territory is pretty much unknowable...

    and it has been unknowable throughout the history of human beings...

    and oh how many have been killed by those who thought they knew....
    You just spout the exact same lines as if I never said anything.

    One more time:

    SOMETHING BEING UNKNOWN DOES NOT IMPLY SOMETHING BEING UNKNOWABLE.

    Examples:

    It was unknown the relationship between electricity and magnetism.

    People said it was Zeus for a long time but Farraday, Maxwell and others discerned the mechanics.

    What was unknown became known.

    Its easy to prove something is not true ie false.

    When I can do the curls and divergences, apply them and they work. Thats amazing.

    Some of the ratios and just exactness that you get is stunning. I look for God there.

    This unknowable nonsense is contemptible.

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    Well then maybe someone else can do it, or you can do it yourself.
    I don't want to be labeled a "butthurt" individual just to help you achieve wisdom.
    you murdering me would not help me achieve wisdom.

    I don't support creationism.
    didn't say or assume you did.

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    Well life was perfect/like heaven in the garden of eden. Till women and man decided to disobey God by eating from the forbidden tree(why he put it there in the fist place..who knows). I assume god wanted to treat us to riches and great things. But that sin thing you know. So god was like "yo u cant obey simple rules?...fine now you and your offspring have to work for your riches and earn your way to heaven from now on" Course that's just what I get from the bible. Dunno how it holds true.
    The whole sin/punishment threat could possibly have been invented by human beings who wanted to find a way to CONTROL other human beings...

    what better way than to ....USE GOD'S NAME...to make the threat...

    primitive people would have been scared less to go against god...and therefore could be CONTROLLED...

    Human beings have always had agendas...still do today...

    As soon as someone wants to advance their AGENDA...what better way than to USE GOD...use god to threaten ( )...to reward (heaven)...

    Billions of people the world over have swallowed this and Billions of people still can't prove if a god exists....or does not exist....

    I would say the odds are that we never will....

    ...and that's ok.

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    This unknowable nonsense is contemptible.
    yeah, but I hope it goes on for a little while longer.

    I get bored in my god-like state.

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    so you believe God is capable of boredom? Interesting.
    being bored effects everyone no matter how much power or money you have. Why would a "God" be any different?

    do you think God really cares about humans?
    Your amusing I believe in God, second if he supplied water food and air what more needs to be done to care for something. Do you have a pet isn't food ,water, and shelter all you really need to provide? Are you responsible for your pets mind and habits? Should you turn your pet into a puppet?

    do you think the bible is the right book?
    explain right. as reference to historic events? To serve as a guideline for humans to live by? or just something to put in a hotel room for guest to have something to read.

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    You just spout the exact same lines as if I never said anything.

    One more time:

    SOMETHING BEING UNKNOWN DOES NOT IMPLY SOMETHING BEING UNKNOWABLE.

    Examples:

    It was unknown the relationship between electricity and magnetism.

    People said it was Zeus for a long time but Farraday, Maxwell and others discerned the mechanics.

    What was unknown became known.

    Its easy to prove something is not true ie false.

    When I can do the curls and divergences, apply them and they work. Thats amazing.

    Some of the ratios and just exactness that you get is stunning. I look for God there.

    This unknowable nonsense is contemptible.
    If we are talking about material things, mechanical things, math,geometry etc...

    these things might be figured out in time....

    When one talks about love/god/ spirituality...

    these things are not explainable or knowable to the human mind...

    if you think that in time god will be knowable...then let me know when you discover it...

    I won't hold my breath.

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    you murdering me would not help me achieve wisdom.
    How do you know if you haven't experienced the other side yet? That is like me saying going to Amsterdam isn't going to show me how to smoke weed. How can i say that if i haven't been there?



    didn't say or assume you did.
    Well you keep asking me questions that pertain to those subjects.

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    If we are talking about material things, mechanical things, math,geometry etc...

    these things might be figured out in time....
    Then how come no one can explain Stonehenge?

    if you think that in time god will be knowable...then let me know when you discover it...
    If anyone did discover it they would be labeled a mentally unstable person or a false prophet, how do you know there isn't a group of people who know the answers and have the mental capability to understand it?

    Just because some kid in Africa doesn't understand how to convert an Mpeg4 into an AVI file doesn't mean others don't know.

    I won't hold my breath.
    Maybe if you do hold your breath long enough your questions about life and if there is a God will be answered.

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    Then how come no one can explain Stonehenge?



    If anyone did discover it they would be labeled a mentally unstable person or a false prophet, how do you know there isn't a group of people who know the answers and have the mental capability to understand it?

    Just because some kid in Africa doesn't understand how to convert an Mpeg4 into an AVI file doesn't mean others don't know.



    Maybe if you do hold your breath long enough your questions about life and if there is a God will be answered.
    Maybe if I hold my breath long enough...I will begin to believe that Michael Shenker can actually play better than Hendrix...

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    Maybe if I hold my breath long enough...I will begin to believe that Michael Shenker can actually play better than Hendrix...























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    wow Manny was right, that did feel good!

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