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lol @ the TP trade. That would make us 10X worse.
WTF?
Bucher is saying we need a Robert Horry-type? A stretch 4?
Hasn't he heard of Matt Bonner?!?!?! Matt Bonner is the Robert Horry floor stretching 4, the best in the league and he's awesome . . . at least SpursTalk posters have been vomiting that nonsense like indoctrinated cult members since summer 2007. The 48 Minutes of site worships Bonner and has repeatedly leaped to his defense over the years and even had one of their members on the NBAToday podcast talking up Bonner as the reason the Spurs would beat the Lakers!
lol @ the TP trade. That would make us 10X worse.
Just shows ESPN is done and should go into full rebuild mode, starting with trading Ric Bucher.
We aren't going to be a contender next year.
The only way could be to trade TP or Manu + Blair for Howard.But it's not goin to happen.
TP is a good player but he's not good enough to get players in return with the value to put us in the race again.
It could have worked 2 years ago.Now TD and Manu can't lead this team to the tle.Same Parker.
I would trade Parker for young players thinking in the future.Same Manu.Not thinking in to be a tle contender again next year because it will be a better team with Parker.
i dont think its a great idea to trade t.p i used to be a insane advocate of the t.p trade however i dot think well be getting rid of who want to get rid of anytime soon (rj) i think we can get rid of bonner tbh someone like the warriors i think would bite. but if we really want to make sure were ok for the future all the while possibly getting a 5th ring would be tony parker getting traded.
if so i say we only need to get one good good quality big and a good draft pick number or someone like rudy fernandez but i say go for it .
i think we can trade/play with the following players (richard jefferson/matt bonner/dujuan blair/tony parker everyone else stays for sure. james anderson is going to be really good once pop stops ignoring him so is tiago splitter in the mean time we need to keep all of our draft picks and try and move up if they think they can snag the next manu/tony type of player its that time again and at least its something to be excited about in a way
Lord only knows why.WTF?
Bucher is saying we need a Robert Horry-type? A stretch 4?
Hasn't he heard of Matt Bonner?!?!?! Matt Bonner is the Robert Horry floor stretching 4, the best in the league and he's awesome . . . at least SpursTalk posters have been vomiting that nonsense like indoctrinated cult members since summer 2007. The 48 Minutes of site worships Bonner and has repeatedly leaped to his defense over the years and even had one of their members on the NBAToday podcast talking up Bonner as the reason the Spurs would beat the Lakers!
It those type of opinions that makes one wonder whether some members ever watch a Spurs game in its entirety.
His trade proposals are ing ridiculous.
Spurs can probably get decent talent in return if they package Parker with RJ and Blair. But losing Parker is going to be huge to this team because the offense is always better with him running it than Hill. And despite what people he say, he does have good court vision. You can tell that while Hill and Parker are somewhat similar players, Parker is definitely more of a point guard because he has the vision that Hill so sorely lacks.
I'm down for trading TP. And great idea to include RJ in that deal. and Bonner too please. Somethings gotta give.
Trading TP only makes sense if it allowed the Spurs to offload Jefferson's contract... but even then I doubt the FO would break up the "big-three" core, and boot its youngest member...
you just fooling yourself, all of those plans to try to fix the situation, to try to improve the team by adding roles players. no metter how good they are, it's pointless, Spurs got to understand that Tim, Mano and Tony aren't good enough anymore to making the team even close to contender, for this the team need a real franchise player, so because of this Spurs need to start rebuild right now(especially when 2012 draft gonna be fantastic). and also to be loyal to Tim and Manu and to trade them to contender, it will be very sad to see them wasting their final years playing for nothing, just to make the playoff without real chance to win le, Spurs should start the process first of all by trading Tim and Manu for Clippers when they will play next to real franchise player in Blake Griffin, somthing it's much suitable and exactly what necessary for them with their current status as players if they wish for another ring, and they sure does.
two options for the trade will be: for Eric Gordon and DeAndre Jordan(sign and trade), or for Eric Gordon, Al-Farouq Aminu and Chris Kaman, those two nice options for Spurs who give them great talent and nice young pieces to build for the future.
and for all Spurs fans to see Tim and Manu playing for Clippers will be good for two reasons, also to see them playing for a championship, and also to see them trying to take the hegemony from the Lakers in LA and them!
One thing he's right about, is that spurs big three is done contending for a le. How many first round exits we need to realize that?
Just wow.. Parker for Tony Douglas, Shawne Williams and Ronny Turiaf?
I think it's quite obvious Bucher has many more important things to do and probably spent 10 minutes (at most) devising this "plan".
What a joke.
I think Bucher meant that those guys could be had if Timmy opts out and takes less money. Parker would be traded separately for an asset of similar value.
Bucher does get a
Personally, the only way I'd support a TP trade is obviously if it got us some similar value in return, at a similar age to boot. It would also be great if we could package RJ with him for whatever.
You lost me literally 2 words into the thread's le.
Que? This is pretty typical of him.
One thing is for sure, if any trades happen they are going to have to all happen during the off-season, otherwise Pop wont play them as much as he should.
Training camp seems to be a huge factor on who Pop will give consistent playing time to.
I understand - and after reading the content and his wild-ass scenarios, I get it even more.
I'm going to go ahead and say this. The ONLY way the Spurs will be a le contender again in the Duncan era is if we manage to maintain Duncan while getting a player with the last name James, Durant, Howard, Griffin, or Bryant. Seeing as none of those are happening, we need to just brace ourselves for a couple more years of first/second round exits and a few lottery years after TD retires.
There is no nobility or any kind of reward for first-round playoff exits. All that spells is mediocrity, which some teams never seem to get off that treadmill. Take me to the NBA Draft Lottery - the sooner the better.
not sure memphis will let gasol go - they will try signing him again and get rid of someone else to create space
"It's simply that he (Parker) is not enough of a playmaker at point guard to raise the level of those around him"
"if George Hill can step into the starting point-guard role -- and I believe he can..."
So Bucher says the we need a playmaker and then he says Hill can step into that role
Obviously he has not watch many Spurs game.
Lol people wanting to trade the only part of the big 3 that's still in his prime.
Derek Fisher is essentially a SG too.. how's that worked out for the lakers?
This article would have been better if Bucher had actually watched the Spurs play. So much of what he says about Tony and George sounds like someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah, break up the core by trading it's youngest player. Tony and Manu played outstanding all year...until Tim went down, the team had a of a ride.
Intergating Tiago and Anderson will be a priority in camp for sure. Right now Blair will be our best big off the bench. You know we'll be looking for more size. As suggested by timvp, RJ probably needs to come off the bench. He seems to play his best when not out there with all of the Big 3 at the same time. I'll be surprised if any blockbuster trade goes down involving the Spurs...
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