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Kobe hasn't worsened or improved. He's the same. The team isn't as capable of winning despite him as they were.
His numbers are significantly worse than last year AND he's not getting the same production from others. Bad combo
2009: 30.2, 5.3 boards, 5.5 assists
2010: 29.2, 6.0 boards, 5.5 assists
2011: 24.3, 3.4 boards, 3.3 assists
That's pretty significant downgrade
Kobe hasn't worsened or improved. He's the same. The team isn't as capable of winning despite him as they were.
Kobe's numbers from last year were severely stat-padded vs. ty defenses in Utah and Phoenix..
He shot 40% from the field against the only 2 top 5-10 defenses he played last year, Boston and OKC..
This year, he has played 2 top 5-10 defenses so far, and he's actually played pretty decently against both..he had an above average series vs. NO, and a pretty good series vs. Dallas..
He's the same player as last year, contrary to the belief of some..the only difference is that his supporting cast is worse, particularly Pau, which is reflected in the Lakers 2nd round exit..
Yeah but he admitted that he started to feel burned out during the ECF vs the Knicks
Heck, he thought about taking a year off after the 92 Finals
...then Stern insisted.
tee, hee.
He's not getting it done in the 4th quarter either. Looks worn out.
His worst thing on the court is Selfish, self-centered.
Boiled down, though:::::::
Jordan: 6
Kobe: 5
And that's having gone to college and taken 2 years off in his prime.
age catches up even with the best of 'em
aside from a few highlights kobe has gotten from attacking the rim, the man is just a jumpshooter now
basically.
But, Jordan is locked.
Locked as the GOAT.
No. He's locked at 6. Kobe still has many years left. & he's not married to the Lakers. He'll hunt Jordan down no matter the uniform required.
Kobe's rings will never make him the GOAT. He's already negated any chance of that with the post-Shaq pre-Pau years, giving up in the playoffs, tantrums, media outbursts, Colorado....
All Bryants wants is the raw number (at least 7). He's wise enough, near psychotic enough to realize that that is enough. He cannot control the hum of debate. He can control the raw number and that is what he's hunting.
Sorta like Knight hunting the win record. He knew once he got it they'd denigrate it, but, that's on them, not him.
This defined Kobe's legacy and career. Nothing else will be remembered. It will only be that he was skunked the first time he met Tim and now that he lost to the Mavs when it was all on the line.
yep
and its not the 6 rings alone that locks MJ as the GOAT. its not the two three-peats.
Bill Russell has more rings than MJ but no one calls him the GOAT.
here are some of the reasons MJ is the GOAT:
6-time NBA champion: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998 (all with Chicago Bulls)
6-time NBA Finals Most Valuable Player: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
6 NBA Finals appearances: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
5-time NBA Most Valuable Player: 1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998
10-time scoring champion: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
3-time steals leader: 1988, 1990, 1993
3-time minutes leader: 1987, 1988, 1989
14-time NBA All-Star: 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2002, 2003
3-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1988, 1996, 1998[5]
1-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1987-88
11-time All-NBA selection:
First team: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
Second team: 1985
9-time All-Defensive selection:
First team: 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
NBA All-Rookie selection:
First team: 1985
NBA Rookie of the Year: 1985
2-time NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1987, 1988
Runner-up in 1985
7-time The Sporting News Most Valuable Player: 1987-88, 1988–89, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1997–98
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year: 1991
Ranked #1 by SLAM Magazine's Top 75 Players of All-time
Ranked #1 by ESPN Sportscentury's Top 100 Athletes of the 20th Century
Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"
Selected in 1996 as member of two of the "Top 10 Teams in NBA History"
1991-92 Chicago Bulls (67–15; .817)
1995-96 Chicago Bulls (72–10; .878)
Two Olympic gold medals - USA: 1984, 1992
All Kobe wants is the raw number (7), and he'll hunt it.
He had his chance and came up woefully short. That's just the truth. It was the biggest moment of his great career and he completely the bed.
Jordan is locked at 6. A fixed target for Kobe. & he'll hunt it.
Like Knight hunted Smith.
So unless you are his cabin boy, why do you try to sell his misconceptions as fact? He will never be the GOAT.
so you are a kobe fan and not a laker fan?
Players don't recover from collapses like this. He had his chance to catch Jordan. It was the single biggest event the NBA would have ever witnessed. Kobe came up short and failed. Failed spectacularly. It's over. He defined his career in the biggest moment of it and it wasn't pretty.
Yes he will try to win more championships. Thanks for that breaking news. Imagine a player trying to get more championships. It's Jordanesque.
Bryant knows though that at 7 he can sit back and listen to to the din of debate and in his own mind he'll be convinced he is the GOAT. Kobe is not like "you" or I. He can get to 7, it's up to him. He's at the con. We're not. All we do is provide the din before, and after (if it comes to fruition). He cares only about the raw number.
He'll enter his house justified at 7.
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