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Dirk always seemed to be injured in his prime come playoff time. Manu has been injured the last four years come playoff time. With Manu being a star player on the team, SA wins two les. I'll go with what I know. . .Manu.
Manu
Dirk
If Dirk ever wants to know what its like to win a le, I'm sure Granpa Timmy would sit him and tell him.
Dirk always seemed to be injured in his prime come playoff time. Manu has been injured the last four years come playoff time. With Manu being a star player on the team, SA wins two les. I'll go with what I know. . .Manu.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA. Make Manu THE star player on a team (without Duncan) and lets see him get those two les. Dirk was injured in all of one year of the playoffs (2003) and it was a freak injury where Manu fell into his knee.
Read my post carefully if you can. I said that Manu was a star player on the team, I did not say that he was the only star player on the team. This thread is about pairing a second star next to Duncan.
This can't be a serious question. Dirk can carry a team - Manu can't. With Dirk's shooting, he'll also age very well.
Seeing prime Manu -pre-Spurs days actually- is what got me back to professional basketball.
He did things I had simply never seen on a basketball court.
Novitski is a shooter, a big shooter, a very good player.
But he is just another very good player.
Not an innovator.
He invented nothing ona basketball court.
Players like Manu are born once in ... I don't know, I have never seen one like that.
Argentina-04 says hi.
USA 02, 04, including Larry Brown, Gregg Popovich Tim Duncan, also says o.
"It's not so much how much he (Manu) scores, it's WHEN,
it's exactly when you want them NOT to score, he does it. It's WHEN it hurt more.
Or it's steal, a tip, a charge, a pass, something."
End of citation, professional coach, beaten by Emanuel Ginobili.
With Dirk, Pop has his stretch big and Bonner never wears a Spurs uniform - addition by subtraction.More Bonner
It's ridiculous to think that Manu could carry a team through the regular seasons/playoffs year after year the way Dirk has. There's a reason why he's been so efficient and such a game changer - Pop has limited his minutes. If he had to play the heavy minutes of a franchise player, he wouldn't be efficient and he would have burnt out long ago the way he plays.
Dirk would make a great Robin, much like Gasol or Lebron...
Just cuz Manu is an innovator doesn't make him a better second banana than Dirk. I could probably perfect some random bull backwards flip shot by playing Horse and be an innovator...I'm better than that jumpshooting Nowitski.
Manu is no doubt about it - a game changer but Dirk is a franchise player with career regular season avg of 23/8.4/2.7 and career playoffs avg of 25.8/10.6/2.6 which outweighs that.
No question Dirk's a superstar in this league and is the franchise player of his team. Manu's been nothing more than a good role player and 6MOY. Manu's plays like a star every now and then but is way too inconsistant to even be up there.
Career winning something, just any type of tournament: 0%.
Enough said.
I take a 37 years old Horry over Novitski in his prime.
Horry won a championship with a hipcheck.
oh boy!
I bet this thread is a fun read
This might be the single dumbest thing I've ever seen on the forum.
I guess I can see how there's some type of argument with Manu but Horry? Really!?!? And a washed up Horry over a prime Nowitzki?
That's kinda like saying I'd rather have a broken down Nick Van Exel over prime Tim Duncan.
Last edited by windboy226; 05-19-2011 at 06:42 PM.
Very tough question. Game on the line give me Ginobili, I'll take his intangibles over anybody. And while Dirk hasn't won the championships and might not leave with the same legacy on paper, he's still a special player. And I want to lean towards Dirk, but I can't think of a reason to say he's better than Manu Ginobili, so I'm just not going to give a direct answer. Good question though, two greats.
spurfan can be some dumb mother ers
You have to read the op. The question is not who is better Manu or Dirk. The question is who would you take as a sidekick to Tim. If you already have Tim Duncan in his prime 2003-2007 Tim Duncan, who would you rather have Manu or Dirk?
If I had to pick one player to be my cornerstone and Tim was not an option I would take Dirk over Manu.
However, as a teammate, Tim and Manu have succesfully won three rings together. History shows that this is an effective team. I would stick with what I know, a Tim and Manu combo.
Manu, easily. The Spurs won with defense. Manu's easily one of the best two or three defenders at shooting guard, especially during his prime. Dirk is an awful defender. He's the guy who would be guarding Bowen or Oberto, people who don't get the ball.
Besides, Tony had a hard enough time getting the ball to just Timmy. No way he could get it to two big men. Playing with two big guys like that would reduce him to a catch and shoot guy and that's not his game.
You probably don't remember how Robert Horry destroyed MVP DRob' Spurs.
05 Finals G5 is enough to pick him over Novitski, anytime.
7 rings.
Novitski is a perfect first violin to put up numbers and eventually fail.
I thought the question was WHO next to Duncan.
I thought the question was who next to Duncan
NOT
who as a "franchise player" (whatever that means) for a franchise that makes money and wins nothing.
It's so hard to believe someone would take Manu over Dirk..You put Dirk/Duncan together with Bowen/Parker/MLE SG the Spurs win a ton of rings.
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