The caveat "with mutually agreed swaps" is actually a recognition that Israel will not give back some West Bank settlements, but will have to swap other lands in lieu of giving them back.
I've talked with people who've lived in Israel and the Palestinian territories.
Like I said, both sides are jacked up.
I don't think either really deserves our support.
And yes, I've spent quite a bit of time looking at news reports from the area through various US and foreign english language news sites, some of the most respected in the world, and some of the shadier. The "media" tries to portray Israel a lot better than they deserve.
I disagree. We may not agree with how Israel protects itself, but that is what their actions are about. If Israel didn't have to protect itself, do you think they would act as they do now?
How many Palestinians have you spoken with, WC?
I don't know. Maybe several, maybe none. That doesn't matter. As long as Palestinians keep bombing Israel, what is Israel to do?
Are you suggesting Israel ignore attacks, and let them attack at will with no recourse?
Then why does your talking with Israelis matter?
I think if Israel truly wanted peace, they would have had it by now. Their actions aren't just about protecting themselves, but at subjugating and dominating through might and fear. They may feel that's the best way to protect themselves, but I find that concept disgusting.
The only person that ever struck me as sincerely wanting peace (if even for just a while) was Arafat's successor in Fatah.
I actually agree with WC and CC on this one, they won the spoils of war, and they can do what they want with them up to and including giving it back. I have no problem with that stance. However, we don't have to give them any money to help them defend it either. Stop the money, and tell em all to have a ball.
Fine by me.
it takes a lot of money to feed the animals in their human zoo.
Same here. It's ridiculous that the same people that about our involvement in other countries around the world wholeheartedly give Israel a bj when the opportunity arises.
the war still going on genius. Nobody HAS WON. And negotiations are part of the war.
Except they can't. There are no more "spoils of war" and have not been for quite some time.
Its not their land at all. It wasn't their land before the west came in and made Israel, either.
Dude, they are the chosen people.
They got chosed.
Pretty funny how I never see the term white guilt thrown around here when dealing with Israel. ing white guilt led to the creation of a whole new country.
Manny's going for a personal best. This will be topic number 258,355,879,245,269,687 that he has injected race into.
Did I get the number right, Manny?
Are you familiar with the creation of Israel, Darrin? It happened after a sizable event in Jewish history. The west then felt guilty and created a nice little place for them in the middle of Palestine. Oh, then we gave them guns. Lots and lots of guns.
This was all accomplished before our government became all consumed by incandescent bulbs and the evils they pose.
He has quite a knack for that.
Race when injected when a country was made for a special ethnic group by outside people. Do you, or do you not think guilt over the mistreatment of this ethnic group led to the creation of the country?Manny's going for a personal best. This will be topic number 258,355,879,245,269,687 that he has injected race into.
Did I get the number right, Manny?
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Same question to you. Did guilt have anything to do with the creation of Israel. If not what were the forces behind it?
Relax. I was just riffing on an earlier post you made where you threw out some ridiculous number like that.
Oh and to answer your question, without a doubt it was the motivator.Relax. I was just riffing on an earlier post you made where you threw out some ridiculous number like that.
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