I guess 06 was also a transitional year? It's not like Dirk has surpassed Duncan for quite some time now, or that he just swept the two time reigning champs with the same starting 5..... oh wait.
And mileage? Please, Dirk has played every summer for Germany, and hasn't had his minutes managed like Duncan has. The only reason this run is happening is because the rest of the team is stepping up, but as for Dirk this is business as usual for him.
I wonder which player shot more free throws in that series. I also wonder which player shot more free throws than the entire opposing team in Game 7. Hint: Wasn't Dirk.
Plus, lol at you comparing the finals to the Spurs-Mavs series. People from T-Mac to Phil Jackson, Rasheed Wallace to Nate McMillan, journalists like Henry Abbot and Bill Simmons have mentioned and written extensively about what happened in that series. They are not Mav fans, and with the exception of then-Piston Sheed, had no reason to hate on Wade. Yet they declared the series to be officiated in a very bias way. TMac said he thought he was watching a fix. There are videos on Youtube of the calls Wade got that are ridiculous.
There isn't a thing like that for the whole Spurs-Mavs series. You have one legit complain, and it's the call Dirk got at the end of either game 3 or 4. But if you insist on defending Dirk with smaller guys like the Spurs did, then you'll see them try to reach constantly just like they did in the OKC series. Those are fouls, just like hitting the elbow of shooters are fouls.
And before you say anything about weak fouls, look at the rip move which Duncan perfected before Durant. He got the whole Mavs frontline in trouble with that bull .
Don't you ever dare compare the Spurs-Mavs series to the Finals. They are as apple and oranges as they come.
I haven't underrated Howard. I said that he is the one guy that I would have no problem seeing listed behind LBJ.
But the payroll argument is bull . The Knicks and Blazers led the league in that for most of the decade, and see where it got them. We already had that debate with TD21, but most of that payroll is due to stupid contracts the Mavs gave to their own players from Raef LaFrentz to Brendan Haywood.
I really don't like this comparison of rip moves. Durant swings his arms out to the side in a motion that isn't even close to a shooting motion and that just is not the case with Duncan's rip move. If Duncan's defender move his arm he can easily go up for a high percentage shot, for Durant he either has to readjust or put up a low percentage shot.
Charles and them after a game in 06 playoffs with the Spurs losing said flat out NBA REFS SUCK! They cost the Spurs that game no doubt and other calls, how convinient it is to forget that series for some, but it was horrible officiated in spots.
Finley gets a tech taken away and they lose in OT, Pop says that means we win by a point right? Dirk steps on Tims foot and Tim fouls out, that was just a flat out circus that year all around by refs. Dallas fans remember the Miami Series, I remember that one too.
lmao at TD 21 downplaying Shaq. He was a year removed from a 2nd place MVP finish and averaged 20 and 9 in 2006. What a dumbass.
It might not be stylistically the same, and with Duncan playing closer to the basket it means little adjust in being able to score, but it's a cheap way to get fouls. And he did throughout the 06 series.
Anyway, let's get back to celebrating Dirk's greatness
About as dumb as saying Wade has never been a go to guy tbh...
Not sure about Orlando because Howard could go next year.
Definitely Chicago or Miami wouldn't trade Rose,LeBron or Wade for Dirk.It's not even close.
crofl
who out there didn't see DET one coming!
Given Dirk's age that not a good comparison.
Duncan stepped into the league and was immediately tasked with playing 38 mpg and doing virtually everything. He also, from his second season on, was in the second round or further until '09. He didn't get eased in, like Bryant or Nowitzki and he's never played an easy game. Like all truly great big men, he played a physically demanding game. Unfortunately, his franchise took his greatness for granted, wore him to a nub and as such, he's got little spring left in his knees. And once that goes, for a basketball player, they're never the same, no matter how skilled they are.
Generally, dominate big men shoot a ton of free throws; jump shooters don't. Remember this disgrace of a game? http://www.basketball-reference.com/...605130DAL.htmlI wonder which player shot more free throws in that series. I also wonder which player shot more free throws than the entire opposing team in Game 7. Hint: Wasn't Dirk.
Plus, lol at you comparing the finals to the Spurs-Mavs series. People from T-Mac to Phil Jackson, Rasheed Wallace to Nate McMillan, journalists like Henry Abbot and Bill Simmons have mentioned and written extensively about what happened in that series. They are not Mav fans, and with the exception of then-Piston Sheed, had no reason to hate on Wade. Yet they declared the series to be officiated in a very bias way. TMac said he thought he was watching a fix. There are videos on Youtube of the calls Wade got that are ridiculous.
There isn't a thing like that for the whole Spurs-Mavs series. You have one legit complain, and it's the call Dirk got at the end of either game 3 or 4. But if you insist on defending Dirk with smaller guys like the Spurs did, then you'll see them try to reach constantly just like they did in the OKC series. Those are fouls, just like hitting the elbow of shooters are fouls.
And before you say anything about weak fouls, look at the rip move which Duncan perfected before Durant. He got the whole Mavs frontline in trouble with that bull .
Don't you ever dare compare the Spurs-Mavs series to the Finals. They are as apple and oranges as they come.
I don't give a what popular opinion was. I'm telling you, as a guy who rarely uses officiating as a primary reason for a team's demise, that '06 series was a travesty. They were clearly trying to keep the Spurs out of the Finals that season and no one can convince me otherwise. Then the Spurs, to many's surprise, made the Finals the following season and what happened after that? Conveniently a series of "trades" that swung the balance of power in the league and essentially eliminated the Spurs from being a viable contender for the remainder of Duncan's and Ginobili's primes.
Stop being overly biased. Wade is an all-time great in the making. If you want to be biased and put Nowitzki ahead of him, fine, but don't go overboard and act like it's not close.I haven't underrated Howard. I said that he is the one guy that I would have no problem seeing listed behind LBJ.
But the payroll argument is bull . The Knicks and Blazers led the league in that for most of the decade, and see where it got them. We already had that debate with TD21, but most of that payroll is due to stupid contracts the Mavs gave to their own players from Raef LaFrentz to Brendan Haywood.
The payroll argument is excellent. It guarantees nothing, but it sure helps. Look at the top payrolls and you'll notice a trend.
dirk4mvp, how am I downplaying O'Neal? He was clearly on the downside that season. I love how you build him up to suit your argument, yet you pukes act like Duncan has been in decline for years, because he was averaging 19/11 in '08 and '09.
You guys are just mad that Wade, a truly great player, destroyed the Mavs, who had a superior team, but were lead by a career loser. Get over it.
TD 21
Could Howard do what Dirk is doing?
Top 2
Go Mavs
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
