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    If he were actually playing, you might have a point.
    Maybe his lack of playing is the reason the Mavs lost?

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    Maybe his lack of playing is the reason the Mavs lost?
    What evidence do you have to prove that contention?

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    He is probably a better FT shooter than Haywood. Had he played as well as Haywood in game 1 - not hard AND made his FTs, then the Mavs might have had an edge in the fourth. Game by game basis of course. I'm not saying he's better than Haywood overall. just that Haywood sucked in Game 1.

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    lol

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    You are understandably amused by my reasoning, and yet, there is some logic there if you look at Haywood's less than stellar stats in Game 1. Those 14 mins could have been better spent on Ian and his significantly better FTs.

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    You are understandably amused by my reasoning, and yet, there is some logic there if you look at Haywood's less than stellar stats in Game 1. Those 14 mins could have been better spent on Ian and his significantly better FTs.
    Ian probably would have fouled out before the 14 minute mark.

    lol significantly

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    Ian probably would have fouled out before the 14 minute mark.

    lol significantly
    Good point. Looks like I've been ChumpDumped.

    Can't fault the ol college try tho right?

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    It's a tough sell, but there is a reason why he's not playing.

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    It's a tough sell, but there is a reason why he's not playing.
    I actually don't know much about Mahinmi other than the battle scream and a couple of aggressive looking dunks, blocks and other plays I witnessed during some regular season games last year. He just looked like he had a lot of potential then. I wonder if Splitter would be playing at all if on the Mavs or still riding the pine like Mahinmi or whether there is a significant difference in skill and effectiveness there.

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    It's a tough sell, but there is a reason why he's not playing.
    And now we all know the "reason" Matt Bonner was given a 20 minutes a game against memphis.

    Reasons are fickle things in Pop's world.
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    during the Mavs introduction for the NBA finals. He sounded like an uncontrollable beast. It was frightening and inspiring, but heartbreaking to know he could have added that intensity to the Spurs' locker room this year and perhaps alleviated our deplorable defense on the front line significantly. 6-11, young, athletic and intense. What's not to like?

    If Mahinmi is adding anything to the Mavs, it must be in the locker room. It sure as isn't on the floor. That was an impressive zero minutes he put into last night's win.

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    If Mahinmi is adding anything to the Mavs, it must be in the locker room. It sure as isn't on the floor. That was an impressive zero minutes he put into last night's win.
    Mahinmi had quite a few quality outings this year in limited time. I'm not sure what your point is really. James Jones had an impressive season for the heat, and now he's not getting minutes either. A guy like that is still nice to have around.

    If and when Cuban can dump Brenda's contract to some other team Mahinmi will start to see more minutes, and maybe even sooner. I think Cuban wouldn't hesitate in the least if an opportunity arose to offload Brenda and her 50 million+ contract in order to pay Ian 1/10 of the price for essentially the same results.

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    Mahinmi had quite a few quality outings this year in limited time. I'm not sure what your point is really.

    My point is that the thread is about Mahinmi's "battle scream" in the ing locker room, and how much that would have meant to the Spurs.


    Oh, and with the exception of one game against Memphis, Ian's "quality outings" were against Golden State, Cleveland, and Toronto. But every time he scored more than about 5 points, there were people starting threads about how we let the next Shaq slip right through our fingers. Hey... maybe Shaq will come out of retirement, and just scream in the Spurs locker room?

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    My point is that the thread is about Mahinmi's "battle scream" in the ing locker room, and how much that would have meant to the Spurs.


    Oh, and with the exception of one game against Memphis, Ian's "quality outings" were against Golden State, Cleveland, and Toronto. But every time he scored more than about 5 points, there were people starting threads about how we let the next Shaq slip right through our fingers. Hey... maybe Shaq will come out of retirement, and just scream in the Spurs locker room?
    Love how you left out his best outing (against Memphis). Guess you forgot to mention that one, huh? :p

    So the logical conclusion you're making is that teammates that sit stoically with mopey faces are so much better to have around. Do I have that right? Hey, come to think of it, Ianny did that alot when he was with the spurs.

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    Love how you left out his best outing (against Memphis). Guess you forgot to mention that one, huh? :p

    So the logical conclusion you're making is that teammates that sit stoically with mopey faces are so much better to have around. Do I have that right? Hey, come to think of it, Ianny did that alot when he was with the spurs.

    LOL... you didn't even watch that game, did you? Ian had his usual 7 points (good game for him, actually) until the 4th quarter, when the Mavs were down by 22, and Memphis didn't give a anymore. Ian "The Battle Scream" Mahinmi picked up 10 points in garbage time, and you guys think he's the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain. I wouldn't put too much effort into any more of those "logical conclusions".

    BTW - because of Mahinmi's effort, the Mavs were able to trim that 22 point deficit to just 19 by the end of the game. Congratu inglations.

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    LOL... you didn't even watch that game, did you? Ian had his usual 7 points (good game for him, actually) until the 4th quarter, when the Mavs were down by 22, and Memphis didn't give a anymore. Ian "The Battle Scream" Mahinmi picked up 10 points in garbage time, and you guys think he's the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain. I wouldn't put too much effort into any more of those "logical conclusions".

    BTW - because of Mahinmi's effort, the Mavs were able to trim that 22 point deficit to just 19 by the end of the game. Congratu inglations.
    Nobody ever said he was the second coming of Chamberlain, just a solid bench guy to have. In his six regular season games of 20+ minutes he logged a double double once, missed another by 1 point, had two near double-doubles, and had two "off" games where he put up 7/5. Well cripes, I'd be exstatic if Matt Bonner could put up those kind of numbers even with longer minutes. Usually Bonner recording a double-double is cause for several jubiliatory threads on spurstalk.

    And you're right, he scored 10 of his 17 in garbage time against Gasol & Randolph, but then again I guess any scrub in the league could do that easily right?
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    Nobody ever said he was the second coming of Chamberlain, just a solid bench guy to have.
    If you're not one of those people, then I wasn't talking to you. Why be defensive about something that doesn't apply to you?

    Through this whole season, any time the guy scored more than 4-5 points, there were threads about how great he was the night before. And seriously... the battle scream? You're defending his ability on the court - I get it. But surely you aren't defending the battle scream?

    I didn't call him a scrub... but in the Memphis game, there was NO defense being played in that fourth quarter. There's no way Mahinmi does that against the guys we faced in the playoffs. You know that.

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    I'm not sure what your point is really.
    The point is Ian doesn't play.

    If and when Cuban can dump Brenda's contract to some other team Mahinmi will start to see more minutes, and maybe even sooner. I think Cuban wouldn't hesitate in the least if an opportunity arose to offload Brenda and her 50 million+ contract in order to pay Ian 1/10 of the price for essentially the same results.
    Ah, the old "he's only playing more because he gets paid more" argument.

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    TBH Mahimni isn't that bad he just has bad footwork on the defensive end, once he works on that and doesn't foul as much he will be a solid 15 MPG player

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    lol solid bench guy

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba...ory?id=6628183
    Ian Mahinmi, a 6-foot-10, 24-year-old reserve, could get his first significant playing time of the postseason. Coach Rick Carlisle could also opt to go with a smaller lineup that features 6-foot-7 Shawn Marion at center when starting big man Tyson Chandler rests.
    Looks like Ian may see some minutes tonight. I think it's quite likely given the heat will be attacking the rim all night. He may not last long but will provide some quality rim protection. He's got to fill Haywood's shoes which shouldn't be that difficult IMO. He's defenitely more than capable.

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    Good luck to him.

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    There were several times during the season when Ian got into the rotation when Chandler was hurt and ahead of Brendan.

    Dallas sportswriters and sportscasters commented on how lucky the Mavs were to get a young guy that was making significant contributions when called on. Rick Carlisle joined in praising him.

    I don't think anyone said he'd be starting soon and Brenday reclaimed his rotation spot, but Mahinmi did play well and didn't have huge problems with fouls. What fouls he had were sometimes because he was really over-trying on defensive blocks. You can say that his energy is a liability when he fouls--or you can say it helps energize the other players to play harder.

    IMO I don't think it is crazy to give the guy some props he earned on another team, just because our coaches/FO chose to go in another direction. I argued for years that we should heed the coaches/FO opinion on Ian, but I've come to the conclusion after watching Maverick games that he's one of those guys who is a better game player than a practice player.

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    There were several times during the season when Ian got into the rotation when Chandler was hurt and ahead of Brendan.

    Dallas sportswriters and sportscasters commented on how lucky the Mavs were to get a young guy that was making significant contributions when called on. Rick Carlisle joined in praising him.

    I don't think anyone said he'd be starting soon and Brenday reclaimed his rotation spot, but Mahinmi did play well and didn't have huge problems with fouls. What fouls he had were sometimes because he was really over-trying on defensive blocks. You can say that his energy is a liability when he fouls--or you can say it helps energize the other players to play harder.

    IMO I don't think it is crazy to give the guy some props he earned on another team, just because our coaches/FO chose to go in another direction. I argued for years that we should heed the coaches/FO opinion on Ian, but I've come to the conclusion after watching Maverick games that he's one of those guys who is a better game player than a practice player.
    Would have liked to see him in some regular season Mavs games, but missed them this season.

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    Lol 5 fouls in 7 min

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