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    Who's higher character than Robinson? But when he was a lead player and his team lost, he was supposedly "soft" and "didn't really love the game". No one cared that he was putting up dominant all around numbers or that he didn't have a second star.

    It's not about whether Nowitzki genuinely deserves criticism or not. It's about how the standard has always been and how it doesn't apply to him, or Nash, for that matter. They're portrayed differently than others.
    You have to accept that it comes later, not while the Finals are in progress. It's all "good game, he's a beast" right now. Later it will be a character assassination by his own fans.

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    A great question would be if the Mavs lose this series, is it on Dirk, or Cuban, for not surrounding Dirk with better teammmates?

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    A great question would be if the Mavs lose this series, is it on Dirk, or Cuban, for not surrounding Dirk with better teammmates?
    The Mavs organization gloated about their depth all postseason long. So Nowitzki's lack of a supporting cast shouldn't used as an excuse.

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    A great question would be if the Mavs lose this series, is it on Dirk, or Cuban, for not surrounding Dirk with better teammmates?
    Neither. It's on the Heat for stacking the deck. The Mavs swept the defending champs and went through the rest of the West like butter. Can't do much better than that. They just ran into a "buzzsaw". That's how it will be played out.

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    You have to accept that it comes later, not while the Finals are in progress. It's all "good game, he's a beast" right now. Later it will be a character assassination by his own fans.
    Can't see it. Nowitzki is equal to Bryant when it comes to fan base protection. And from a fans perspective, I understand why they would in this case. But he won't get any criticism from the national media and that's wrong, based on how the standards have always been. Instead, he'll be portrayed as a hero.

    As any rational person can see, this is not a criticism of Nowitzki. It's a criticism of how there's different standards for different people.

    G2D, good point. People can't have it both ways. Either they're the so called "deepest team in the league" or they're not. But it shouldn't change based on the result just to fit a predetermined storyline.

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    Neither. It's on the Heat for stacking the deck. The Mavs swept the defending champs and went through the rest of the West like butter. Can't do much better than that. They just ran into a "buzzsaw". That's how it will be played out.
    Your statement is true, but if the Mavs do not win this series and Dirk never gets a ring, what will be the perception of Dirk?

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    I honestly think there were two Miami Heat runs that cost the Mavericks the game. The one that was midway through the 2nd quarter and the other one to start the 3rd quarter. When you're essentially battling back and trying to cut down the lead the entire game it just wears on your mentally.

    Dallas needs to show me that they can take control of a game from start to finish against the Heat in order for me to believe they can actually win this series.

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    A great question would be if the Mavs lose this series, is it on Dirk, or Cuban, for not surrounding Dirk with better teammmates?
    Their second best scorer has been hurt most of the year with an injury. Dirk literally dragged this team to the Finals almost by himself. Dallas sans Dirk right now... would they even be a playoff team? He's beasting, doing all he can. The Mavs just don't have the weapons. Kidd, Terry, and Marion is NOT a great set of teammates to make a le run. The fact that they're so compe ive is a testament to Dirk, not a detraction.

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    Their second best scorer has been hurt most of the year with an injury. Dirk literally dragged this team to the Finals almost by himself. Dallas sans Dirk right now... would they even be a playoff team? He's beasting, doing all he can. The Mavs just don't have the weapons. Kidd, Terry, and Marion is NOT a great set of teammates to make a le run. The fact that they're so compe ive is a testament to Dirk, not a detraction.
    Agree. But my point, is if Dirk does not win this series, or never wins a ring, the perception by some would be, Dirk was a great shooter, scorer, etc., but he wasn't good enough to carry his team to a championship. That would be a unfair perception imo, but there would be people out there who would think that Dirk wasn't a great player, just a great scorer.

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    Their second best scorer has been hurt most of the year with an injury. Dirk literally dragged this team to the Finals almost by himself. Dallas sans Dirk right now... would they even be a playoff team? He's beasting, doing all he can. The Mavs just don't have the weapons. Kidd, Terry, and Marion is NOT a great set of teammates to make a le run. The fact that they're so compe ive is a testament to Dirk, not a detraction.
    I wouldn't necessarily say he carried them by himself, the only good team out of the West was the Lakers, and he had peja/barea and the rest of the crew play great throughout the entire series. Had his supporting cast not played amazing all 4 games that series then we wouldn't even be talking about the Mavs in the finals.

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