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    You haven't made a case for that.
    Whatever. I know I could find information, but I'm not going to bother. Would you even accept it? Seems to me that any clear thinking person should naturally understand you don't give one group of people a different starting point than others. What good is any evidence I can find if you are already of the mindset that blacks are inferior, and need an advantage over others to compete?

    Isn't that what a quota system does? End up making selections to satisfy numbers, even when the standard has to be lowered to achieve such numbers?

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    most smart people can make a case for their opinions.
    Why are you being so mean? You're a mean mean man, TeyshaBlue. Please leave WC alone!

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    LOL...
    Whatever.

    Do you remember why I even said my initial remarks? It was a response:
    Right.

    You admitted you are already prejudiced against black people, and your perception of affirmative action inflames that existing prejudice.

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    Whatever. I know I could find information, but I'm not going to bother. Would you even accept it? Seems to me that any clear thinking person should naturally understand you don't give one group of people a different starting point than others. What good is any evidence I can find if you are already of the mindset that blacks are inferior, and need an advantage over others to compete?

    Isn't that what a quota system does? End up making selections to satisfy numbers, even when the standard has to be lowered to achieve such numbers?
    Affirmative Action does not make the assumption that blacks, or any other oppressed groups, are inferior. Just FYI.

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    You going to have fun with this too WH?

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    Someone's got their head in the grinder again.

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    Whatever. I know I could find information, but I'm not going to bother.
    lol. This is confirmation bias in spades. I don't need info! I'm right!
    Would you even accept it? Seems to me that any clear thinking person should naturally understand you don't give one group of people a different starting point than others.
    Pardon me if I reject the notion that you have any idea whatsoever of what a clear thinking person would naturally understand.
    What good is any evidence I can find if you are already of the mindset that blacks are inferior, and need an advantage over others to compete?
    Rational debate depends upon the use of facts and cites to support a position. Your strawman defense, hiding behind the coward's skirts of innuendo (ie the completely bogus "you are already of the mindset that black are inferior"), teeters on the thin line between the tantrumatic rantings of a spoiled 9 year old girl, or an attempt at debate by my chihuahua.

    Isn't that what a quota system does? End up making selections to satisfy numbers, even when the standard has to be lowered to achieve such numbers?
    No.

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    I know I could find information, but I'm not going to bother.
    If you stressed this a little less, maybe people would go a little easier on you.

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    Why are you being so mean? You're a mean mean man, TeyshaBlue. Please leave WC alone!

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    wOULDN'T COST YOU A THING, O WILD ONE.

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    Affirmative Action does not make the assumption that blacks, or any other oppressed groups, are inferior. Just FYI.
    I know that. I would say that those saying that a quota system is necessary to get the desired numbers on minorities are saying minorities aren't good enough to compete on a level playing field. Therefor, they are calling the minorities inferior, and are the racist.

    The origins of Affirmative Action was a great idea:

    Executive Order 10925

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    Whatever. I know I could find information, but I'm not going to bother. Would you even accept it? Seems to me that any clear thinking person should naturally understand you don't give one group of people a different starting point than others. What good is any evidence I can find if you are already of the mindset that blacks are inferior, and need an advantage over others to compete?

    Isn't that what a quota system does? End up making selections to satisfy numbers, even when the standard has to be lowered to achieve such numbers?
    inferior? it doesn't treat them as inferior. they come from inferior cir stances, thereby lowering thier chances of having success. that's where affirmative actions comes in. affirmative action doesn't imply racial inferiority.

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    tHERE'S NO HAIRBRUSHI9NG IN TACKLE FOOTBALL. tROOF.

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    (double post)

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    wOULDN'T COST YOU A THING, O WILD ONE.
    With all the preconceived notion of me, I doubt taking that time would pay off. People still wish to insist they know my intent more than I do, so what good would it do?

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    inferior? it doesn't treat them as inferior. they come from inferior cir stances, thereby lowering thier chances of having success. that's where affirmative actions comes in. affirmative action doesn't imply racial inferiority.
    Affirmative action, yes. Quota's no.

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    anybody see the goalpost?

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    People still wish to insist they know my intent more than I do,
    You might have expressed it accidentally once or twice.

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    Affirmative action, yes. Quota's no.
    i think that's what you're trying to make the underlying message when i don't think there's enough evidence for it. they don't state anything about racial inferiority, only underrepresentation. underrepresentation doesn't mean that the group that is underrepresented is inferior.

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    You going to have fun with this too WH?
    Don't you ever wonder why everyone seems to tell you the same things? At what point do you stop thinking everyone else is wrong and actually realize the cause of the situation?

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    With all the preconceived notion of me, I doubt taking that time would pay off. People still wish to insist they know my intent more than I do, so what good would it do?


    You've been here for years spewing off your BS so I don't think you're allowed to use this word to describe how people feel about you.

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    Well, this thread backfired rather quickly

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    Well, this thread backfired rather quickly
    Yeppers.......he screwed the op, couldn't adjust. It all went sideways.

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    For blacks who make it by merit, they are perceived as in the same boat as products of quota systems by people who don't know better.
    Yes, you perceive them that way. Not everyone does.

    Now what do you think could happen if an employer, of any type of job opening, would do if he finds two equally qualified candidates by all he can discern. If that question ever enters his mind "was this guy selected by a quota system," who do you think has a better chance of getting picked?
    Why would that enter his mind, if both people show equal amts of ap ude? Does it matter how one got there if they can both do the job equally well?

    Sure, it's not universal, and you still have a few racists out there making hiring decision. I see it as one more stumbling block for a colorblind society.
    Surely, there's only a select few racists out there. We're probably down to the double digits by now.

    I perceive it as just being evil.
    Again, your perceptions are not universal. I don't know why you think they are.

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    I know that. I would say that those saying that a quota system is necessary to get the desired numbers on minorities are saying minorities aren't good enough to compete on a level playing field. Therefor, they are calling the minorities inferior, and are the racist.
    So you think the playing field is level BEFORE affirmative action?

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