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  1. #151
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    How so? Pierce won FMVP. If KG was so great, and a top PF all-time over Dirk, then wouldn't he have earned the award over a top 50 SG?
    No, for the same reason Parker won it over Duncan in 07. People are infatuated with scoring. Which is why Dirk is being praised right now, despite shooting terribly in the series and contributing nothing else. The real reason they won is the Heat took them too lightly, the referees, and the play of scrubs above their level.

    That's bull . He's just as good as Duncan at making his teammates better on the offensive end.
    I stopped reading here. I also lold. Hard.

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    You're the victim of the moment and media hype. Dirk was a monster in the playoffs and he and the Mavs proved to be better than everyboy else but Dirk didn't "completely outclassed" Wade. In fact he didn't outclassed him at all, well maybe he did off the court.

    Dirk: 26 pts, 41 FG%, 9.7 rbds, 2 assts, 0.7 blks, 0.7 stls, 2.8 TO
    Wade: 26.5 pts, 54 FG%, 7 rbds, 5.2 assts, 1.5 blks, 1.5 stls, 2.5 TO

    Cue sensitive Mavsfan response.
    That is a stupid comparison, considering Miami's defense is geared towards stopping Dirk, while essentially Wade's stats are inflated due to Dallas guarding Lebron and letting Wade go off.

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    That is a stupid comparison, considering Miami's defense is geared towards stopping Dirk, while essentially Wade's stats are inflated due to Dallas guarding Lebron and letting Wade go off.
    So that effects his assists, blocks and steals as well?

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    joshdaboss... u mad?

    Dirk had an excellent series... its not always about shooting %.

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    joshdaboss... u mad?

    Dirk had an excellent series... its not always about shooting %.
    So what else was it that he actually did well? I didn't see anything. Maybe awkwardly flop his way to free points(on jump shots) from the referees? Other than that, I'm not really certain.

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    So what else was it that he actually did well? I didn't see anything. Maybe awkwardly flop his way to free points(on jump shots) from the referees? Other than that, I'm not really certain.
    You are too biased. At this point, I hope you're trolling the Mavs fans.

    I'll go ahead and bite, and say Dirk flopped just as much as, or less than the Miami trio. If Dirk was really the player you describe in your posts, then Dallas should've lost to Portland.

    I'm a Spurs fan like you, but you're a homer.

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    You are too biased. At this point, I hope you're trolling the Mavs fans.
    I'm really not trolling. He's a good, borderline great player. The reason I say borderline is because he can do only 1 thing at an elite level. I reserve the great label for complete players.

    I'll go ahead and bite, and say Dirk flopped just as much as, or less than the Miami trio. If Dirk was really the player you describe in your posts, then Dallas should've lost to Portland.
    No. Dirk flops entirely more than any Heat player; not quite as much as Barea, but he's close.

    I'm a Spurs fan like you, but you're a homer.
    That's pretty interesting. How am I a homer if I'm a Spurs fan defending Miami? lol Makes 0 sense.

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    I'm really not trolling. He's a good, borderline great player. The reason I say borderline is because he can do only 1 thing at an elite level. I reserve the great label for complete players.



    No. Dirk flops entirely more than any Heat player; not quite as much as Barea, but he's close.



    That's pretty interesting. How am I a homer if I'm a Spurs fan defending Miami? lol Makes 0 sense.
    You're a homer in the sense that you can't appreciate Dirk because of your allegiance. Makes perfect sense that you don't want him to succeed due to the rivalry. Dirk flops, sure. So does everyone else.

    And your definition of great should be measured by winning too.

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    Q: When did Spursnation start negating the importance of a ring?

    A: When Dirk and the Mavs got one

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    You're a homer in the sense that you can't appreciate Dirk because of your allegiance. Makes perfect sense that you don't want him to succeed due to the rivalry. Dirk flops, sure. So does everyone else.

    And your definition of great should be measured by winning too.
    That has nothing to do with it at all. I actually like Dirk. He's a classy guy for the most part. I just wouldn't insult other truly great players by comparing them to him. Malone, for example. That would be an absolute joke to compare him to Karl Malone. To argue he's better would just prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you never saw Karl Malone play in his prime.

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    Q: When did Spursnation start negating the importance of a ring?

    A: When Dirk and the Mavs got one
    I don't negate the importance of it at all, but people are making crazy claims now. Let's be honest here, Terry was better than Dirk in these finals. I don't think there's really any debating that.

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    I don't negate the importance of it at all, but people are making crazy claims now. Let's be honest here, Terry was better than Dirk in these finals. I don't think there's really any debating that.
    I'm done

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    My top 5 PF of all-time

    1. Duncan
    2. Malone
    3. Barkley
    4. Dirk
    5. prob KG......up for debate.

    Dirk however has a great chance of becoming #2....just continue winning rings. All will pan out for him.

    Congrats Dirk!!!!!

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    BTW......

    Anybody who says Dirk is better than Bird needs to sell me a $50 bag of whatever they're smoking. It's dry where I live.....

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    yeah, dirk is #4 behind 2 ringless s whenever he has 2 himself..

    yur brin=fckd
    Call me brain ed then....I don't think it's that crazy to put dirk 4th. Before 2 days ago....He was prob #6-7. Your not jumping up that many spots to me.

    A LOT of people will argue that KG is better than Dirk...are they wrong?? I can't honestly say they're right or wrong.

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    yeah, dirk is #4 behind 2 ringless s whenever he has 2 himself..

    yur brin=fckd
    Did I miss Dirk's other ring???
    He has two???

    I must be living under a rock...

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    Why do you say that Dirk has two rings??? Are you counting his wedding ring as one???

    And I'm LMFAO at your Dirk and Duncan comment. We ALL know who's #1 on the all time PF list. And I'll give you a hint...it's sure as not Dirk.

    BTW...I love Dirk. Especially happy to see him get HIS FIRST ring.

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    For those of yall s dissing KG for what he did in Minny go back and look at those rosters. The same argument about Dirk lacking help that yall used to love to use to protect Dirk can be applied to KG, and it has more merit. Because KG never had 90 million payrolls, and he had that dumbass McHale running the team. On top of that the West was stacked at the time, I remember the Wolves being a 50 win team year in and year out yet only managing the 8th/7th seed most yrs. Those teams were supposed to lose, they simply didnt stack up to the likes of the early-mid 2000s Lakers/Spurs/Kings/Blazers/Mavs. The year he got a legit all-star caliber players in Spree and Casselll he got the 1 seed and reached the WCF, and who knows how much farther they couldve gone if not for Cassell's injury during those playoffs.

    Sure the wasnt the most clutch player during his years there, but all he needed was a closer like Shaq had with Kobe or Duncan had with Manu later in his career...and you had an elite team because of how great of a two way player he was. I dislike the but itd be stupid to deny how great of a player he was, especially during his prime. He's still the second best PF ever by a slight margin, Dirk would have to repeat to surpass him.

    But we are arguing with Mav fans, these s worship Dirk. Which is understandable since he got them a le but it throws objectivity on their part out the window.

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    Dirk has one a championship without HCA.

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    dirk takes over and closes games better than your duncan
    Had to go and up the Spurs fans giving Dirk mad love

    I'll be looking for you, bro

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    I would love to hear what that guy has to say right now.

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    How so? Pierce won FMVP. If KG was so great, and a top PF all-time over Dirk, then wouldn't he have earned the award over a top 50 SG?
    How so? Because there's a lot of evidence that proves that wining finals MVP doesn't make a player better than other. Parker winning finals MVP over Duncan in '07 beign one of the better examples. Also Billups has a finals MVP, would you say that he's a better player than Lebron James, Dwight Howard or many others?

    Pierce may have been the finals MVP but KG was without question the best player of that Celtics team, he was third or second in Reg season MVP voting that year and he was the best Celtic performer during the whole playoffs. You could change Pierce for a lot of (well maybe not a lot but some) other players in the league and Boston would have still won the championship, while there isn't a single other player that you could have put in that team instead of KG that would have made them as good as they were.

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