Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

[Gino2882]

Ugh. Think I've been screwed with. Sorry to drag you all into it.

No your not. Typical bull that goes on around here...

[rascal]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald



Spurs' R.C. Buford, on Tony Parker trade rumors: "We're not shopping anyone." bit.ly/jBkUWV


Via Twitter. So much for that.

But he didn't say we are not trading anyone.

[hater]

if you knew the front office well, Buford's statement practically means:
"Give us a call about Parker. Anybody."

[rascal]

I'll bite... Duncan, Robinson, Gervin, Manu... who is 5th if not Parker?

Kenon and James Silas

[Leetonidas]

I knew getting Cousins and their pick for Parker and RJ was bull because the salaries don't make sense at all but I just got a boner at the thought

[lmbebo]

I knew getting Cousins and their pick for Parker and RJ was bull because the salaries don't make sense at all but I just got a boner at the thought

Salaries work because of the king's low team salary.

I couldn't see Kings moving Cousins though.

[lefty]

:rollseyes So lefty is trying to argue and give someone crap about saying TP is a top 5 Spur when he himself prob has him in the top 7 like it's a huge difference.

it's a difference for me

[DPG21920]

It doesn't work salary wise.

[rascal]

I second this. Except I'd take kemba. I'm CT all the way.

Agree. Kemba is a winner. He single handily made the big shots and willed his team to victory in the Big East tournamnet and the NCAA tournament.

A true class player and proven winner. He would be a great fit on the spurs and would add depth at pg and help replace Parker and the Spurs also could upgrade on the frontline from the trade.

[rascal]

Salaries work because of the king's low team salary.

I couldn't see Kings moving Cousins though.

Throw in Toronto and a couple more players and try working out a deal that could work as a 3 team deal. Sac may move Evans if they land Parker and Toronto could be a destination.

[rascal]

All your ing about getting a good big for years and now you want to trade for the softest one in the league in Bargnani? And a 6'0" shooting guard who shoots 43% against NCAA defenses in Walker? Are you even a Spurs fan?

Bargnani plays bigger than Jefferson. And you forgot that the spurs will be adding Cousins who is better than Bonner. So yes there is an upgrade on the frontline.

[Leetonidas]

Salaries work because of the king's low team salary.

I couldn't see Kings moving Cousins though.

I don't think the Spurs can trade about 20 million in salary for a player on his rookie deal and a pick.

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't think the Spurs can trade about 20 million in salary for a player on his rookie deal and a pick.

Kings will be 15 million under the cap under the newly proposed 62 million cap (if that's about where the new salary cap will be with the new CBA intact). A lopsided trade (salary-wise) can be done in this scenario.

[5in10]

Who do the Spurs like enough to want to move up into the Lottery?
Chad Ford
(2:00 PM)


Valanciunas is a draw as a legit center. They're also high on Klay Thompson I believe. I'm not sure they need to trade Parker to move way up in the draft. George Hill could probably get them somewhere in the late lottery.

[objective]

If Stein is right, it's pathetic.

A year ago, basically, EVERYBODY agree it was damn dumb to give $50M to RJ and Bonner. To erase that mistake now Spurs want to trade Parker!

If a Parker + RJ for crap trade happens, RC should be fired.

Come on Bruno, not everybody thought it was dumb. There was a very vocal cadre of pro-RJ and pro-Bonner people on this board and unfortunately in the Spurs FO.

[DisciplinaryOffice]

No your not. Typical bull that goes on around here...

Not to belabor this, but...

1. Yes, I am.
2. I think you're getting my posts (which were honest (if ill-informed) questions) confused with the typical bull , which I would characterize as: completely unsubstantiated claims presented as facts and stream-of-consciousness inanity, often delivered in a new, unnecessary thread, and members who equate post-count with penis-length strutting around trying to pick/provoke fights and embarrass other posters into silence.

Not pointing fingers, just differentiating. Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Bruno]

The more and more I think about this whole situation, the more I think that this is the most likely scenario. By floating Tony Parker trade rumors, the Spurs raise George Hill's value. The effect wouldn't be huge, but even if it's just a few spots upward in the draft, it could make all the difference if they've got someone in particular targeted.

As much as I like Hill, trading Hill makes a lot more sense than trading Parker. Parker is a huge part of your current core who you just locked up for 4 years. He's an All-Star, and a big part of what makes the offense run. George Hill is a combo guard on a team that suddenly finds itself crowded at the 2. He's on the last year of his rookie contract, and he'll be looking for a decent payday next summer. If Parker is still around, the Spurs will want to give him bench/role player money. Given his potential and previous play, other teams might be willing to give him starter money. As the Spurs, if you're worried about this at all, you trade him now while his value is highest.

Yep, Spurs having Neal and Anderson in addition of Manu at SG makes Hill a less interesting player.

Another news to consider is the damn strange Motiejunas workout. It fits very well with Spurs getting a pick for Hill (same area).

[Bruno]

Come on Bruno, not everybody thought it was dumb. There was a very vocal cadre of pro-RJ and pro-Bonner people on this board and unfortunately in the Spurs FO.

[baseline bum]

Bargnani plays bigger than Jefferson. And you forgot that the spurs will be adding Cousins who is better than Bonner. So yes there is an upgrade on the frontline.

Bargnani is charmin-soft. And Cousins would be nice, but you're also suggesting Jason Thompson as an option. Thompson is a prototypical bust. He might be a guy to throw a small and short term deal at in free agency, but no way you trade an allstar for him. And Kemba Walker? What do you see in this guy at the NBA level? If being a winner in college was enough you'd see guys like Mateen Cleaves and Hansbrough tearing up the NBA. If Walker can't be efficient against lousy NCAA defense I don't see how he survives the NBA. It would be one thing if he was just a kid like Jrue Holiday was or had ridiculous athleticism like Westbrook, but he's had 3 years and is still just a volume scorer.

[cheguevara]

Come on Bruno, not everybody thought it was dumb. There was a very vocal cadre of pro-RJ and pro-Bonner people on this board and unfortunately in the Spurs FO.

Well RJ worked hard all summer and came in playing lights out. I can see why RC would give him another chance. And the longer year term was to get us some cap space last year.

I don't think anybody was Pro Bonner though. Except maybe Bonner's wife. She posts as Chazley in this forum

[baseline bum]

Come on Bruno, not everybody thought it was dumb. There was a very vocal cadre of pro-RJ and pro-Bonner people on this board and unfortunately in the Spurs FO.

And everyone said it was ridiculous when I kept saying the Spurs would be better off letting Jefferson walk for nothing as opposed to resigning him.

[DPG21920]

While it's definitely concerning, I can't really see TP being moved.

[Mal]

WTF ? Spurs going up for Valanciunas who has up buyout, and Spurs never were good in buyouts things

[LkrFan]

Lamar Odom and Blake for TP.

[objective]

WTF ? Spurs going up for Valanciunas who has up buyout, and Spurs never were good in buyouts things

that's where you're wrong!

Valanciunas or Montiejunas staying overseas and having buyout issues will be perfect for when they need sweetener in order to dump Bonner in summer 2013.