Is TP to blame really....?

[Pauleta14]

TP has somehow lost his edge IMO and your reason might be the one. He just didn't have that same overall killer instinct that he usually has any other season. He had a better season overall that the last two seasons, but I just thought he was missing that usual TP killer instinct for the second half of the season and playoffs.

He is a lot better than he showed in the playoffs and for me it was one of the rare times I was disappointed with his play in the playoffs. Really, really disappointed. I even think he was better in his rookie season in the playoffs against Seattle and LA.

Exactly, I couldn't have said it better...

That and his regular season production (FG% and unselfishness) are the main reason why the spurs should keep him, people (most of the national media + some STalkers) who think that what Parker has shown in the PO is his true level are soo wrong, it's crazy...

[will_spurs]

31 assists to 20 turnovers from your starting PG is a problem.

Because 21 assists to 17 turnovers from your starting SG isn't a problem? And another 18 turnovers from your starting PF isn't an issue either?

Let's face it, everybody stunk. Everybody piles up on Parker, but each of the big 3 averaged 3 turnovers per game or more for the whole series, and Ginobili actually averaged more TO per game than Parker. It's not like everybody wasn't playing bad and giving the ball away at critical points in time.

Our frontcourt sucked all the way. Despite playing significantly more minutes than during the regular season, Duncan averaged fewer ppg (while Manu's and Tony's productions increased). Both Duncan's and Parker's FG% declined significantly during the playoffs.

All the roleplayers declined a lot more than any of the big 3 too. They were abysmal, except Neal.

Parker wasn't playing his best against MEM, neither was anybody. He had his moments, good and bad. Like all the other players. It was a team disaster, no need to try and pin it on one guy only.

[SpursIndonesia]

I think it's well understand that when teams pack the lane and our perimeter shooter can't punish them, Tony's game takes a significant hit, ESPECIALLY when he was cold from the midrange at the same time (while opposing defense will simply allow him to take those midrange shots). Up to this moment, Tony's midrange shot is still not uber consistant, just average, but streaky as .

Those things happened in unison at the Memphis series, he tried to force things, and the end result were not good at all, since Memphis guard were also playing superbly against him, waay over their head.

[will_spurs]

2nd best player in the team that won 61 games got outplayed by Grievis Vazquez and Michael Conley 6 games in a row. Let me repeat. Grievis Vazquez and Michael Conley.

Hmmm let me see.

Player 1 scored 19.7 ppg on 46.2% shooting in 36.8 mpg, to go with 5.2 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 3.3 TOs.

Player 2 scored 14.3 ppg on 39.5% shooting in 38.2 mpg, to go with 6.2 assists, 4.5 rebounds and 2.2 TOs

Which one outplayed the other?

EDIT: since I am in a playful mood, let's play another game:

Player 1 scored 21.5 ppg on 50% shooting in 37.3 mpg, to go with 3.3 assists, 9.2 rebounds and 2 TOs

Player 2 scored 12.7 pgg on 47.8% shooting in 35.3 mpg, to go with 2.7 assists, 10.5 rebounds and 3 TOs

Which one outplayed the other?

[romain.star]

Hmmm let me see.

Player 1 scored 19.7 ppg on 46.2% shooting in 36.8 mpg, to go with 5.2 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 3.3 TOs.

Player 2 scored 14.3 ppg on 39.5% shooting in 38.2 mpg, to go with 6.2 assists, 4.5 rebounds and 2.2 TOs

Which one outplayed the other?

EDIT: since I am in a playful mood, let's play another game:

Player 1 scored 21.5 ppg on 50% shooting in 37.3 mpg, to go with 3.3 assists, 9.2 rebounds and 2 TOs

Player 2 scored 12.7 pgg on 47.8% shooting in 35.3 mpg, to go with 2.7 assists, 10.5 rebounds and 3 TOs

Which one outplayed the other?

Wow, Parker numbers are pretty darn good for a player who disappeared/quitted/chocked.

People might be way too hard on him (nothing new here) but against Memphis, Parker numbers don't tell the whole story. Terrible defense, no intangibles, no leadership, stupid choices during the money time...

Anyway, it gets to the point where it'd be better for everyone to see Parker leave (the Spurs, Parker himself and more importantly: Spurstalk)

[ElNono]

Player 1 scored 19.7 ppg on 46.2% shooting in 36.8 mpg, to go with 5.2 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 3.3 TOs.

Player 2 scored 14.3 ppg on 39.5% shooting in 38.2 mpg, to go with 6.2 assists, 4.5 rebounds and 2.2 TOs

Which one outplayed the other?

If Player 1 is Tony and Player 2 is Conley, then that's pretty disappointing. After you translate the difference in assists, turnovers and rebounds into points you're looking at a pretty even performance between the two.

Going into the series it was pretty clear that Tony was one of the mismatches in the Spurs' favor. You're talking a multiple champ, seasoned vet in his prime, versus a relatively young guy getting his feet wet in the playoffs.

But in Tony's defense, he wasn't the only one underestimating the opponent.

[will_spurs]

If Player 1 is Tony and Player 2 is Conley, then that's pretty disappointing. After you translate the difference in assists, turnovers and rebounds into points you're looking at a pretty even performance between the two.

I agree that it's pretty disappointing. However it's still quite far from outplaying. The 2 stats that look bad for Tony are assists and TOs: I wouldn't be surprised to see assists linked to overall bad team shooting, and all the Spurs players had problems with TOs against a young, athletic, aggressive team that was known for getting a lot of steals off opponents.

All this to say that I'm not trying to defend Parker as it's clear he played poorly in some games and made some bad decisions, but I think as much can be said of any Spurs player not named Neal.

[hater]

watch the series again. Parker didnt even show up for game 1. Conley outplayed him for the first 3 games. Around game 4, Grievis Vasquez was so efficient that Conley lost minutes to him. That is mainly why Conleys numbers drop off. Grievis ing Vazquez started looking like a solid NBA player vs. Parker. Let me repeat. Grievis ing Vazquez was so efficient vs. Parker that he took minutes from Conley.

Parker did pick it up a little in the last 3 games but it was too little too late. Again, the Vasquez/Conley tandem outplayed Parker. That should have never happened. plain and simple.

[SpursIndonesia]

LOL, asking TP to dominate Memphis series is like asking him to be a Jordan, well, he certainly isn't. TP needs good team performance, or atleast average, to allow his game shining. But having frontcourt that was totally destroyed and overmatched, a fellow all star guard who was playing with one hand, a sixth man who regressed so bad he looked clueless at times, and a vagina 40 mil SF, those things affected his game in a very negative way.

He WAS playing below average and expectation, but that also the status of overall Spurs team.