Dice will get 50% of his salary for the 2011-12 season, 2.6M if we get a full season.
The savings for another team come if his contract is used to allow 5M or so in salary to be traded from another team to the Spurs. That team then pays Dice his 2.6M and saves the difference.
In the particular example cited here, Dice's contract wasn't needed to make the trade numbers work and simply resulted in additional expense to the Cavs while the Spurs saved the 2.6M.
I think some people believe that Dice's contract magically saves money for the acquiring team. They only save money by sending a more costly contract(s) back to the Spurs in return.
Two things about Dice's contract:
1. Unless the Spurs and Dice reach an agreement to change the terms in his contract, he must be cut by June 30th to save the 2.6M.
2. In most any trade of Dice's contract, the Spurs will add several million dollars to their 2011-12 payroll. Given that they already well above the salary cap for next season (and the luxury tax if it continues to exist in the new CBA), it's entirely possible that the Spurs choose to let the contract lapse.
Thanks, I wasn't completely aware of the trade scenario they were talking about. I just assumed that they had the contract of Dice cover with other players. However the fact that another team is going to have to pay Dice 2.6m is bad news to me. I was thinking that another team was going to get to save 5mil and that might be able to make a deal go through.
I guess were going to be stuck with RJ
so you think RJ + McDyess for Baron Davis is good trade for us?? i quite sure Cleavland will do it as they will get more cap room for the next two season to sign free agents, will open the door for Irving and improve their no existent SF position...
You guys do know that Cleveland has a $14.5M trade exception? That means that they could take a player (or players) making up to $14.5M, without sending anything back. The only way they are taking Jefferson is if they also get a player or pick that they really want. I knew they were looking for another pick in this draft, and thought they might take Jefferson's contract, if we threw in our pick. But since that didn't happen, any chance of a deal is probably dead. They are going to have lots of opportunities, and they are really looking to try and get Iguodala with their exception.
They might take our first pick in next year's draft. But it's going to be a much deeper draft, and that would be a of a price to get rid of RJ.
I said it before - the last time we made a deal to dump a contract, it cost us Scola. And to get rid of RJ's contract, they would have to give up another desirable piece. The Spurs aren't going to take any deal like that to dump RJ's contract. And nobody else is going out of their way to come and take him off the Spurs' hands. If you see a deal involving RJ, you'll know that the team has gone into full-scall rebuild mode. So get used to it - he's not going anywhere. He's going to be on the team next year, unless the new CBA has another amnesty provision. It's not that RJ has zero value. He's just worth a lot less than his contract. That means we're stuck with him.
I don't care what salaries you pull up on the trade machine. It's not gonna happen.
We'll get rid of RJ as soon as this happens
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It's worth it. It is going to be a much deeper draft, but the Spurs will likely be picking in the 20s again. There's too many benefits to this to worry about a 20 something pick, when the Spurs already have quan y of young talent. If they pulled this off, they'd have: Thomas, Leonard, Splitter, Neal, Joseph, Butler and possibly Gibson, all between 19-26.
Personally I wouldn't trade Anderson especially not until I get to see him for another year - living in Oklahoma i watch him live several times as well as on TV and I think he could be a very good player - and of course 4 team deals are that much tougher to swing
The other thing is while Pop was definitely not happy with Blair 2nd half of last year it is still hard to gauge exactly what the Spurs think of him - some things I hear seems to point on them giving Blair one more chance and some seem to point to them actively looking to move him.
It will be very interesting to see the front court rotation for next season
LOL... it's like a girl saying "I wouldn't date you unless you were the last man on Earth", and the guy responding, "So there's a chance?"
NO. The Cavs aren't going to take RJ's $9.3M salary in exchange for our raggedy-ass draft pick next year. Even if it would be worth it to us, they will be able to do better with that trade exception elsewhere. I shouldn't even have mentioned the pick. No. Just no.
The Cavs' best big was Varejao, and he had injury problems. They don't want McDyess' contract. They want a big man who isn't going to retire, and who can give them some solid minutes. We don't have one of those laying around. We need them - they don't need us.
Worth it for the Spurs, genius. You know they won't take Jefferson for a fact? My proposal had the '13 pick. Duncan may be retired by then and even if he isn't, he'll further decline and Ginobili will likely decline further. That could potentially be a lottery pick.
They don't "need" the Spurs, but they could get some quality young assets for doing the Spurs a favor. Just like the Davis trade. I'll revise it: take out McDyess, insert Anderson and Gibson. I like Anderson and like Hill, would hate to see him go, but I wouldn't allow him to be a deal breaker.
No team touch this ty contract with the new CBA incoming without dumping back to SA.
RJ - Maggette
Thats your way to get rid of RJ
This some strange stuff.
Look up albatross in the dictionary and RJ's picture will be right below.
He is missing the point that 28y old 6-10 great defender Varejao has even with this contract trade VALUE.
RJ has absolut NEGATIVE trade value.
The Spurs not even have enough talent/picks to make a swap worthy.
If they feel confident enough in Leonard, Anderson and Butler, they could try to trade him for Biedrins maybe; their contracts are about the same, and Jefferson might do better in Golden States' offense.
but golden state have dorrell wright who is a fantastc young SF. I doubt they waste time swapping RJ for Biedrins when Dorrell is there unfortunately.
That and they drafted Klay Thompson. Yeah, we're stuck with RJ.
Is there a rule against a team signing a player only to trade him to another team? I'm pretty sure there is, otherwise it would be nice if we could get the Cavaliers to sign Tyson Chandler or someone to a contract with the understanding that he'd come to us for RJ and draft picks or something.
The only way to get rid of RJ is by abstinence.
very true my friend. id trade RJ for any of those average players with average contracts just to see RJ out of here
childress sucks so no. But hes not RJ so maybe lol.
Yes.
79. Can a free agent be signed and immediately traded?
Under no cir stances can a team sign and then trade another team's free agent. But there is a rule that allows teams to re-sign their own free agents for trading purposes, called the sign-and-trade rule. Under the sign-and-trade rule, the player is re-signed and immediately traded to another team. This is done by adding a clause to the contract which stipulates that the contract is invalid if the player's rights are not traded to the specific team within 48 hours.
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