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    The main problem with the life sentence is the costs of lifelong incarceration, as anyone educated on the matter will point out

    the reality is, this nation needs to imprison less people (cough drug offenders cough)
    It was said upstream that the costs of a deathrow inmate far outweigh those of a LWOP inmate.

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    (the light punishment)
    Says you. Obviously, many people disagree with death being a lighter sentence.

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    It was said upstream that the costs of a deathrow inmate far outweigh those of a LWOP inmate.
    further proof of why we shouldn't have it

    we could afford to hold all of these truly dangerous ers in prison if less people were being incarcerated for stupid like a 20 of coke

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    Says you. Obviously, many people disagree with death being a lighter sentence.
    You are right, it is "in my opinion". However, I will say this: there is a reason that suicide is a thing.

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    Are you gonna eat that? Ghandi's Avatar
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    An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

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    You are right, it is "in my opinion". However, I will say this: there is a reason that suicide is a thing.
    People who want to die commit suicide. If every prisoner on death row wanted to die, you would have a point.

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    There honestly is no such thing as "Without a doubt" no matter how hard you think the evidence might be.

    Therefore, it's not a good opinion in my opinion because having the right to appeal is a good thing.
    When someone is seen by multiple reliable witnesses killing someone else then there is no doubt they did it. So I think it's dumb for you to say my opinion is not a good opinion in your opinion in my opinion.

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    When someone is seen by multiple reliable witnesses killing someone else then there is no doubt they did it. So I think it's dumb for you to say my opinion is not a good opinion in your opinion in my opinion.
    You do know that eye witness testimony is not always reliable. Believe me, I've been a witness to it.

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    When someone is seen by multiple reliable witnesses killing someone else then there is no doubt they did it. So I think it's dumb for you to say my opinion is not a good opinion in your opinion in my opinion.
    multiple witnesses of the same crime often tell quite a different story, homie

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    multiple witnesses of the same crime often tell quite a different story, homie
    got!!!

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    further proof of why we shouldn't have it

    we could afford to hold all of these truly dangerous ers in prison if less people were being incarcerated for stupid like a 20 of coke
    Yup

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    juvenile fantasy attack

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    multiple witnesses of the same crime often tell quite a different story, homie
    Like in the Hasan case?

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    Like in the Hasan case?
    just sayin'

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    People who want to die commit suicide. If every prisoner on death row wanted to die, you would have a point.
    Maybe they don't have the balls to do that, or they know that there is an easy, painless way out right around the corner, or maybe they are hoping that their next appeal gets them out. A life is (or can be) a long time. There may not be any remorse today, or tomorrow, maybe even never, but give I want to give the chance for the nightmares to start, for them to feel really sick about what they did and then have to live with that. Additionally, most of the guys there wouldn't be as well received in GP and so death row is a refuge.

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    I don't agree with death penalty. I think life without parole in a hole prison is much worse to deal with than the death penalty anyways. If I had the choice between either, I would probably take death.

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    further proof of why we shouldn't have it

    we could afford to hold all of these truly dangerous ers in prison if less people were being incarcerated for stupid like a 20 of coke
    While I agree with you, I do want to say that the point was that DR inmates cost more, so your statement could even be changed to say that "we could afford to hold all of these truly dangerous ers in prison if less people were being put on DR and sent for execution."

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    Maybe they don't have the balls to do that, or they know that there is an easy, painless way out right around the corner, or maybe they are hoping that their next appeal gets them out. A life is (or can be) a long time. There may not be any remorse today, or tomorrow, maybe even never, but give I want to give the chance for the nightmares to start, for them to feel really sick about what they did and then have to live with that. Additionally, most of the guys there wouldn't be as well received in GP and so death row is a refuge.
    Lot's of maybes. If people would truly rather die than spend the rest of their time life in prison, they can alleviate that problem.

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    While I agree with you, I do want to say that the point was that DR inmates cost more, so your statement could even be changed to say that "we could afford to hold all of these truly dangerous ers in prison if less people were being put on DR and sent for execution."
    no, if i haven't made it clear in my tone, I'm 100% against the death penalty

    it isn't about saving money, it's about locking up the people who need to be locked up and letting the people who aren't dangerous to anyone but "society" live their lives

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    learned in economics of crime that most economists actually support legalization of drugs or at least decriminalization.
    it's a big joke, bro, because legalizing "soft" drugs like marijuana and cocaine would not only bring a ton of magically created revenue to the federal/state governments in the form of taxation, it'd actually increase AND save jobs at the same time

    not only that, without marijuana and cocaine busts, where would the war on drugs be? ultimately, way less money would be appropriated towards down that futile, wasteful avenue, because they'd have a small fraction of the busts to show for their huge operating costs

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    1.) Steal utensil.
    2.) Make shiv.
    3.) Use on self.
    Not really that easy to commit suicide in jail, tbh.

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    why would they do that? As it stands now they get the easy way, someone else does it for them (and it hurts a lot less).
    assuming every death row and LWOP inmate feel exactly the same way about death vs LWOP.

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    Inmates could also try to hang themselves, provoke other inmates into killing them, etc. They could probably get it done if they really want to die.

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    Why even talk of costs. Since when have costs meant anything in this great country lolololol.

    If it costs 2 billion to execute each inmate it wouldn't make any difference. Oh no, we might have to cut back on state food stamp cards being used in Hawaii. The horror.

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    Lot's of maybes. If people would truly rather die than spend the rest of their time life in prison, they can alleviate that problem.
    unless they are cowards.

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