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    how many times does an NFL game end 3-6?

    I can rattle of any number of times a soccer match ends in a 1-1 tie or lower.



    for me, the difference is that there are goals that teams try to reach within the games.

    imo, a triple in baseball is exciting to watch, even if nothing comes of it.

    imo, a 20 yard pass completion on 3rd and 19 in football is exciting to watch.
    OK, I see your point, why do you only choose to apply the logic to only the sports you enjoy, AKA the hypocrisy I just pointed out in another post??? A scoreless soccer game can still be interesting, lots of cool and athletic plays can take place that almost lead to goals but yet don't...

    And I know 3-6 isn't typical, but games where each team only scores a couple of times are very common..such as a touchdown or two and/or a FG, or 1 TD + 2 FGs, etc etc you get the point. The scores in these cases may end up being 17-14 or 14-10, but in reality they're more like 3-2 or 2-1. Just because they decided to make a TD worth 6 points + 1 FG bonus and a FG 3 points doesn't mean we should mistake football scores to reflect super exciting, high scoring games compared to another sport like soccer or hockey that may commonly end 2-1 or some other low score.

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    That's pure bull and this is coming from someone who played American football (and soccer earlier) growing up.

    All of those simple runs stuffed by the d line and backers resulting in net gains anywhere from 4 to negative yardage are soooo exciting...and of course, this makes up a huge chunk of playing time of any given NFL game. Of course you have all of the play calling and waiting, commercials all of the ing time (my biggest pet peeve w/ NFL: auto commercials after every kick... punt, FG, kick off). Then you have your other large chunk of incomplete passes. A good amount of stupid short 5-10 yard outs. Finally, you hopefully have a few nice runs around the outside for many yards and a few nice long passes completed. There are exciting plays, but it's not like watching an entire game is filled with awesome ..which is what you're making it out to be and is what Americans do when they argue that soccer is boring.
    nobody is saying every single play of every single game in football is even the least bit interesting.

    What I am saying is that 99% of watching soccer is ing boring.


    lol 10 minutes action throughout a 3.5 hour game
    lol 10 minutes of action in football>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1000 hours of soccer action.

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    OK, I see your point, why do you only choose to apply the logic to only the sports you enjoy, AKA the hypocrisy I just pointed out in another post??? A scoreless soccer game can still be interesting, lots of cool and athletic plays can take place that almost lead to goals but yet don't...
    a cool kick in soccer that almost leads to a goal but doesn't is like a cool pass in basketball that doesn't end up with a bucket.

    easily forgotten.

    And I know 3-6 isn't typical, but games where each team only scores a couple of times are very common..such as a touchdown or two and/or a FG, or 1 TD + 2 FGs, etc etc you get the point. The scores in these cases may end up being 17-14 or 14-10, but in reality they're more like 3-2 or 2-1. Just because they decided to make a TD worth 6 points + 1 FG bonus and a FG 3 points doesn't mean we should mistake football scores to reflect super exciting, high scoring games compared to another sport like soccer or hockey that may commonly end 2-1 or some other low score.
    getting a first down in football is a goal in itself, tbh.

    getting on base in baseball is a goal in itself.

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    nobody is saying every single play of every single game in football is even the least bit interesting.

    What I am saying is that 99% of watching soccer is ing boring.


    lol 10 minutes of action in football>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1000 hours of soccer action.
    So you really have no response other than to reverse to the stupid subjective comments... "99% of watching soccer is ing boring" is the best you can do I guess.

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    a cool kick in soccer that almost leads to a goal but doesn't is like a cool pass in basketball that doesn't end up with a bucket.

    easily forgotten.



    getting a first down in football is a goal in itself, tbh.

    getting on base in baseball is a goal in itself.
    A first down...something that is often done very easily throughout the game, is equivalent in excitement of a goal? OK then.

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    What is stupid about football is the clock is running sometimes and players are not even playing yet, getting up after a play and standing in the huddle.

    Less than 15 minutes of actual playing time in a two hour game.

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    Less than 15 minutes of actual playing time in a three hour game.
    fixed

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    Your right. The NFL 1 O'Clock games on the east coast end at 4 pm or after.

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    What I am saying is that 99% of watching soccer is ing boring.

    lol 10 minutes of action in football>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1000 hours of soccer action.
    Do you realize that that is only your opinion and that most people in the World disagree with it?

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    Of course you have all of the play calling and waiting, commercials all of the ing time (my biggest pet peeve w/ NFL: auto commercials after every kick... punt, FG, kick off...there's nothing I love more than this sequence: TD, extra point, commercial, kickoff, commercial).
    lmfao how ironic, just found this article while browsing the ty yahoo articles:

    NFL games are about to get longer and more replay-filled
    By MJD

    Hey, here's something I hate. An increased number of booth reviews in the 2011 season is going to lead to longer games, says the NFL's former vice president of officiating.

    A new rule goes into effect this year stating that every scoring play that happens in the course of an NFL game will be automatically reviewed by the replay official. Here's an explanation of that process from Mike Pereira at FOXSports.com:

    If an official rules a score (touchdown, field goal, safety or extra point) during a game, the replay official will automatically review the play. If there is any question as to whether the ruling is correct, they will buzz down to the referee and ask him to come to the monitor to review the play. If the replay official confirms the ruling is correct, they will buzz the referee indicating he is clear to let the scoring team attempt the extra point, or kick off if the scoring play was a field goal, safety or extra-point attempt. A coach will not be allowed to challenge the ruling of a score. The intent is to save the coach from having to challenge the ruling of a score and, thus, increase his chances of not running out of challenges or timeouts.

    Overkill.

    It's not necessarily that I'm anti-replay; if the right call can be made, then it should be. But in the quest to "get it right," it seems like the flow of the game is often completely discarded, and I'd argue that that's way more important to the NFL's viewing experience. And now we're building more stoppages into the game, right after its most exciting plays?

    Unnecessary stoppages brutalize a game's watchability. It's like these "reality" shows, where they pound in unending pauses in an effort to manufacture artificial drama, but end up just being irritating as all . I don't know how anyone can stand that.

    We should be looking at ways to shorten games, not make them longer. If a 1 p.m. game isn't going to end until 5, I want it to be because it went into overtime and gave us free football. It seems like we're getting to the point now that a game won't end on time (before the 4/4:15 games start) unless it happens to be contested by two teams that favor a ball-control offense.

    And think about this, too: You know that super-annoying thing that networks do when, after a score, there's a commercial break, they come back for the kickoff, and then have another commercial break, and it seems like there's about a half hour between plays from scrimmage?

    Throw a replay break into that, too. You'll see the same Coors Light commercial six times before anyone takes another snap.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl-wp3507


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    I just looked up average MLB attendance. Jesus Christ the MLB gets more people than I ever thought. They are doing way better than the NBA. My bad MLB.

    Anyway -thats proof people dont mind watching boring sports.

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    The NBA average attendance is only about 800 people or so higher per game than MLS. Obviously, the NBA plays more games and has more teams but the gap isn't nearly as large as people perceive it to be. MLS is still in its infancy compared to the NBA.

    As far as televised games goes, national televised games for MLS are on national networks. Namely, ESPN, Fox Soccer, Galavision, Telefutura, and Univision. All are national networks. For the NBA they would be ESPN, NBA TV, ABC, and TNT. The NBA will have a much larger amount of total games since they play more, but I really do think the total percentage of games on national TV is greater for the MLS.

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    The NBA average attendance is only about 800 people or so higher per game than MLS. Obviously, the NBA plays more games and has more teams but the gap isn't nearly as large as people perceive it to be. MLS is still in its infancy compared to the NBA.

    As far as televised games goes, national televised games for MLS are on national networks. Namely, ESPN, Fox Soccer, Galavision, Telefutura, and Univision. All are national networks. For the NBA they would be ESPN, NBA TV, ABC, and TNT. The NBA will have a much larger amount of total games since they play more, but I really do think the total percentage of games on national TV is greater for the MLS.
    Well frankly just using attendance to gauge popularity is useless. For MLS fans, anyone and everyone who wants to attend specific games can and will. They play in bigger stadiums, tons of availability, and there isn't high demand. Basically as long as you are within reasonable range, there probably isn't a game you can't go to while grabbing single game tickets. While the NBA isn't extremely popular compared to the NFL, it's still way more popular than the MLS. Fans of big market teams have to pay much more as basketball arenas have limited capacity, and certain teams sell out often. Attendance numbers could be much higher for the NBA if it were feasible for more people to come, while in the MLS they're much closer to being as high as the demand. There aren't millions watching from home with the MLS, like there is with the NBA, that's for sure. And obviously the MLS doesn't sell nearly as much merchandise.

    I don't see the point in the comparison, the two leagues can be close in attendance averages on a per game basis, but they are in completely separate universes in terms of popularity/the entire product.

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    Do you realize that that is only your opinion and that most people in the World disagree with it?
    This is why it's pointless to argue. Although I enjoy football, most of the world could give a about the sport.

    The majority of people on earth enjoy watching soccer more than baseball or football. These are things we know.

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    well one thing to point out is the fatness of american people is directly related to the amount of commercials in their sports.

    Well baseball is an exception, because it's so slow and boring that you can have a couple of full meals and half a dozen beers and not miss any of the "action".

    But football, basketball, golf and even nascar is so bogged down with stoppages and commercials that the american crowd is forced to stuff their faces, especially because 1/2 the commercials are about food. Don't even mention Superbown Sunday. The entire american public as a whole gains a few million pounds of fat during that weekend alone. It's pretty sad.

    On the other hand, soccer, the world's sport is the sport for a skinny and healthy public. You don't get much time to walk to the refrigerator or even stuff your face with food cause anytime there could be a good play. And the only stoppage is a 15 minute halftime.

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    lol Nascar is for inbred hicks.

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    Do you realize that that is only your opinion and that most people in the World disagree with it?
    yes.

    Don't you find it odd that it's taking so long for such a globally popular sport to catch on in such a sport hungry country like the US?

    I do.

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    lol Nascar is for inbred hicks.
    this

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    yes.

    Don't you find it odd that it's taking so long for such a globally popular sport to catch on in such a sport hungry country like the US?

    I do.
    Soccer s on football TBH

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    well one thing to point out is the fatness of american people is directly related to the amount of commercials in their sports.
    right, this causation is a known fact
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    yes.

    Don't you find it odd that it's taking so long for such a globally popular sport to catch on in such a sport hungry country like the US?

    I do.



    So one country's disapproval of a sport deems it boring?

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    yes.

    Don't you find it odd that it's taking so long for such a globally popular sport to catch on in such a sport hungry country like the US?

    I do.
    I don't really care.

    Don't you find it funny that a country like the US that imposes so many things worldwide can't impose its sports? And it's not for a lack of exposure.

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    So one country's disapproval of a sport deems it boring?
    It's America, man

    The rest of the World doesn't matter to them

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    So one country's disapproval of a sport deems it boring?
    I find soccer boring all on my own.

    I'm not sure that it's just pure coincidence, however, that the vast majority of my fellow countrymen find soccer less interesting that football, basketball or baseball.

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    Should have just bumped your old thread Blake

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...soccer+popular

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