Perry's Closet Full of Bones?

[ElNono]

Wait now.

Do you disagree that most parents will not attempt to teach their kids, their values?

Wait, did you say 'beliefs', and now you changed it to 'values'?

I see what you did there...

[ElNono]

This is how you git r done:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ick-perry.html

[Wild Cobra]

I have no clue what you're talking about, but it doesn't sound like a robust scientific theory.

It sounds more like a lazy thought which is essentially what creationism is.

Hey, I don't agree with it either. However, it is a plausible explanation considering the accepted theories when dealing with space/time. We have no way of proving it right or wrong. To us, it is as silly of a notion as the idea of space travel, computers, etc. to our ancestors of multiple generations past.

What if someday we find we can bend space/time?

[Wild Cobra]

Wait, did you say 'beliefs', and now you changed it to 'values'?

I see what you did there...

Let's say both.

[ElNono]

Let's say both.

I agree with values, not necessarily agree with beliefs, tbh. Obviously, there's all sorts of parenting out there, so YMMV.

[Wild Cobra]

I agree with values, not necessarily agree with beliefs, tbh. Obviously, there's all sorts of parenting out there, so YMMV.

You just saw an example of a parent pushing her belief.

Do you have kids?

Don't you try to instill both your beliefs and values upon them?

[ElNono]

Hey, I don't agree with it either. However, it is a plausible explanation considering the accepted theories when dealing with space/time. We have no way of proving it right or wrong. To us, it is as silly of a notion as the idea of space travel, computers, etc. to our ancestors of multiple generations past.

What if someday we find we can bend space/time?

We already tested and know for a fact that the Earth changes space/time, and how it does it.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...11/04may_epic/

You're a little late with your theorem, and obviously, I don't see that finding making scientists postulate your garbage theory as anything plausible.

[ElNono]

You just saw an example of a parent pushing her belief.

Do you have kids?

Don't you try to instill both your beliefs and values upon them?

I don't have kids at the moment. My parents however instilled values, and taught me their religious beliefs, but didn't 'indoctrinate' me in them. (indoctrinate meaning 'accept a set of beliefs uncritically'). They let me decide what I wanted for myself, and to critically think and speak about it.
That's good parenting, IMO.

[Wild Cobra]

We already tested and know for a fact that the Earth changes space/time, and how it does it.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...11/04may_epic/

You're a little late with your theorem, and obviously, I don't see that finding making scientists postulate your garbage theory as anything plausible.

It's not my "garbage theory." To summarily toss out a scientific theory you cannot give cause to be wrong, is very unscientific.

[ElNono]

It's not my "garbage theory." To summarily toss out a scientific theory you cannot give cause to be wrong, is very unscientific.

I just did 'give cause' to be wrong. Space and time has been bending throughout the last 6000+ years. It's a fact.

[Wild Cobra]

I just did 'give cause' to be wrong. Space and time has been bending throughout the last 6000+ years. It's a fact.

I see you missed the point being made. Besides, you appear limited to believing space/time can only bend with gravity. Why are you close minded?

[ElNono]

I see you missed the point being made.

I didn't miss a thing.

Besides, you appear limited to believing space/time can only bend with gravity.

link where I stated that?

lol closed minded

[Wild Cobra]

I didn't miss a thing.



link where I stated that?

lol closed minded

By indication the NASA experiment shows the theory wrong.

You're a little late with your theorem, and obviously, I don't see that finding making scientists postulate your garbage theory as anything plausible.

[DMX7]

We have no way of proving it right or wrong. To us, it is as silly of a notion as the idea of space travel, computers, etc. to our ancestors of multiple generations past.

So because it seems silly, it is therefore a valid possibility?

[Blake]

So because it seems silly, it is therefore a valid possibility?

lol

[Wild Cobra]

So because it seems silly, it is therefore a valid possibility?

I agree it is silly and not likely. However, that doesn't mean I have a closed mind to the possibility.

[DMX7]

I agree it is silly and not likely. However, that doesn't mean I have a closed mind to the possibility.

Either way, being possible doesn't make it plausible, and more importantly, it doesn't make it science...

Now to her, it appears to me that believing in "creationism" is abandoning science.

[DMC]

Just ask me a question and if I have heard the explanation, I will repeat it to my best ability. Don't ask me to recount all though.

One that sticks out is the "6,000" year time frame. It was brought up that the creation process of converting so much matter and energy would interfere with the space/time continuum and skew time.

Granted, I think it's a silly idea, but can you prove it wrong?

Non existential universal claims cannot be disproved. For example, you cannot disprove that a pink unicorn lives somewhere in the universe. I think it's a silly idea but can you prove it wrong?

There's no need to contemplate notions that are silly. If they are silly because you lack understanding, that's one thing and maybe you will overcome that with time, but if they are silly because they lack substance, that's another.

[ElNono]

By indication the NASA experiment shows the theory wrong.

I asked for a link/quote where I stated that space/time can only fluctuate with gravity. Quote or it didn't happen.

[ChuckD]

Maybe his former Secretary of State will come forward...

[Wild Cobra]

I asked for a link/quote where I stated that space/time can only fluctuate with gravity. Quote or it didn't happen.

I was under the impression that your NASA experiment link was an indication that you meant only gravity can affect space/time. If I misunderstood you, I'm sorry.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't have kids at the moment. My parents however instilled values, and taught me their religious beliefs, but didn't 'indoctrinate' me in them. (indoctrinate meaning 'accept a set of beliefs uncritically'). They let me decide what I wanted for myself, and to critically think and speak about it.
That's good parenting, IMO.

It also mean "To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view." The idea doesn't have to be forced.

[ElNono]

It also mean "To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view." The idea doesn't have to be forced.

indoctrinate.

Synonyms
1. brainwash, propagandize.

You could simply say 'teach' and we wouldn't be having this conversation, tbh.

[ElNono]

Rick Perry's Stem Cell Surgery Could lead to Quackery

[Wild Cobra]

Rick Perry's Stem Cell Surgery Could lead to Quackery

Besides the idea of Quackery, what point are you making?

It's not uncommon for people have unconventional procedures.