This makes me sick...

[mavs>spurs]

This was my experience as well. Having been in the military, most of the people I knew who came in out of HS did so because it was their only opportunity to get away from the hole they grew up in. Some were not good in school and most of those guys went to the Army. Some of the 1st and 2nd year college dropouts ended up in the Navy or Air Force, mostly to pay for their tuition, thinking they would have time to complete their schooling outside of the 12 hour shifts we sometimes had to pull, and outside of the short notice TDY.

Me, I went in because I was from a small, hole town where there were no other options. You sell meth or you join the military. I am not a good salesman.

[desflood]

thanks for letting us know you're a ing dumbass who cant read

Okay, sure. Tell me what exactly about these sentences is not contradictory:

im just saying that most people I know who joined the military did it because it was the easy thing to do. why the would somebody out of high school (who had the money to go through college) voluntarily join something where your life is at stake everyday while getting paid wages?

Do the "easy thing to do" and the "life at stake every day and wages" suddenly not contradict each other?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Do the "easy thing to do" and the "life at stake every day and wages" suddenly not contradict each other?

The easy thing to do is going the route where you have no control of your fate and you become a good little soldier controlled by an officer.

[Axe Murderer]

Do the "easy thing to do" and the "life at stake every day and wages" suddenly not contradict each other?

i said JOINING the military was the easy way out. Joining the military is much easier than going through 4 years of college is it not?

[MannyIsGod]

Actually, most of them are people taking classes who don't have their degree yet. Take my old man for example - in a week, he'll graduate with his Bachelor's in Computer Forensics. Until then he's just another stupid military asshole with "some college", according to many of you.

Not that I expect you to believe this, but most in the military are just as saddened and sickened by such events as you ordinary civilians.

Congrats to your husband!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

people in the military are so saddened by innocent lives in Iraq being lost they joke and giggle when bodies of Iraqis are run over!

[hehateme]

people in the military are so saddened by innocent lives in Iraq being lost they joke and giggle when bodies of Iraqis are run over!

DoK butthurt it wasn't him being ran "over" by a train for once...

[Sisk]

Joining the military is much easier than going through 4 years of college is it not?

[DMC]

people in the military are so saddened by innocent lives in Iraq being lost they joke and giggle when bodies of Iraqis are run over!

tbh, the guys you hear talking in the video, other than the ground units, likely never faced enemy fire on the ground. Officers and warrant officers often have an air of supremacy about them that's unwarranted (no pun intended). Generally (no pun intended) it's the higher ranking officers and enlisted men that get it. The rest are just playing video games.

Also, some of these guys need serious therapy when they return to the states, despite their seemingly calloused approach on film. Like many of those individuals in groups with common goals, these guys say whatever to get through the moment and appear mentally intact, but they often don't make a return trip. Killing a kid takes it's toll.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

DoK butthurt it wasn't him being ran "over" by a train for once...

That's your best comeback?

[desflood]

i said JOINING the military was the easy way out. Joining the military is much easier than going through 4 years of college is it not?

I've only experienced the one, but I'm guessing not.

Congrats to your husband!

Thanks! He jokes that he hasn't felt so free in years

[512spursfan]

ungrateful Jew criticizing the very military that saved his pathetic money-grubbing hypichondriac race

[Dark Gable]

All my uncles are retired military.

[cheguevara]

where are the nerds that will claim that video is not realistic enough because there is no scene of Willem Dafoe being machinegunned while still screaming with his arms raised

[Borat Sagyidev]

All of the pieces of crap apologizing and justifying this are not worthy of human life let alone living in this country.

America built it's reputation on being righteous and descent, especially during WWII. Bad military work, bad scouting is to blame for this, not actions "being a part of war". This is the same crap that screwed us up in Vietnam. People don't want this version of freedom,whatever the heck that means now.

My platoon capt in nam had a unwritten rule, if any of us grunts shot a child or woman, we'd be shot as well and left for dead. When our platoon was grouped, we made an agreement no more screwed up stuff, and you know what? We did our job well and we're all mentally sane individuals now for it.

Between all distracting BS with Agent Orange and randomly killing civilians, we were made to retreat. If the grunts and higher ups just kept it simple, perhaps we'd done better.

I find it highly noticeable how so many of the s justifying this tend to be conservative, when it comes down to it, the conservative far right in this country are not far different from jihadists. Both a plague to humanity and worthy of a bullet to the head.

And some of you wonder why America has lost respect in the world. Worldwide we're looked down upon. Nobody falls for that "freedom, liberty" BS anymore

[hehateme]

That's your best comeback?

That's your best reply?

[Borat Sagyidev]

So, given your post, you believe that they knew that these people were innocent the whole time? That they knew children were in the van? That they knew it was a camera? That they knew they were media members?

If you believe all that, then I understand your anger.

I believe they thought they were armed with AK-47's and RPGs. They believed they were about to flank their soldiers. That's what I think, and that's what their dialogue and actions suggest.

Give up on the bull man, you make Aggies look bad. I know plenty of Aggies would of scouted the scenario further. You act like it impossible to decipher a camera from a gun or notice a child. We have optics that see the type of drink in your hand from space, heck i'd spot the type of gun if at all from 1000yds out and fire with reasonable accuracy.

Lowered expectations are what's hot in College Station now or what?

[SA210]

All of the pieces of crap apologizing and justifying this are not worthy of human life let alone living in this country.

America built it's reputation on being righteous and descent, especially during WWII. Bad military work, bad scouting is to blame for this, not actions "being a part of war". This is the same crap that screwed us up in Vietnam. People don't want this version of freedom,whatever the heck that means now.

My platoon capt in nam had a unwritten rule, if any of us grunts shot a child or woman, we'd be shot as well and left for dead. When our platoon was grouped, we made an agreement no more screwed up stuff, and you know what? We did our job well and we're all mentally sane individuals now for it.

Between all distracting BS with Agent Orange and randomly killing civilians, we were made to retreat. If the grunts and higher ups just kept it simple, perhaps we'd done better.

I find it highly noticeable how so many of the s justifying this tend to be conservative, when it comes down to it, the conservative far right in this country are not far different from jihadists. Both a plague to humanity and worthy of a bullet to the head.

And some of you wonder why America has lost respect in the world. Worldwide we're looked down upon. Nobody falls for that "freedom, liberty" BS anymore

[Sisk]

We have optics that see the type of drink in your hand from space, heck i'd spot the type of gun if at all from 1000yds out and fire with reasonable accuracy.

We have those optics on Apaches?

Lowered expectations are what's hot in College Station now or what?

Yes. That's exactly what's going on here.

[Dr.Manhattan]

I have great respect for the Military.

[Fernando TD21]

so unless the military knows there is a 100% chance someone is innocent, it's OK to shoot them? MY WHOLE ING POINT IS HOW ED the military's "Blow everything to , then investigate and ask questions once the civilians are dead" procedure is barbaric and disgraceful to America.

In Aggieland tho, you guys seem to think it's awesome. It's why every billy badass who was picked on in school joins the military so he can go shoot up some innocent people.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's your best reply?

Seeing how your comeback had nothing to do with the topic at hand, yeah it is.

lol resorting to "you're gay!" jokes once your argument is shut down

[mingus]

The military is full of crazy Rambo wannabe mother ers who wanna shoot anything that moves. like this doesn't surprise. There are quite many genuinely good people to so I'm not going to bash the whole military.

[DMC]

All of the pieces of crap apologizing and justifying this are not worthy of human life let alone living in this country.

America built it's reputation on being righteous and descent, especially during WWII. Bad military work, bad scouting is to blame for this, not actions "being a part of war". This is the same crap that screwed us up in Vietnam. People don't want this version of freedom,whatever the heck that means now.

My platoon capt in nam had a unwritten rule, if any of us grunts shot a child or woman, we'd be shot as well and left for dead. When our platoon was grouped, we made an agreement no more screwed up stuff, and you know what? We did our job well and we're all mentally sane individuals now for it.

Between all distracting BS with Agent Orange and randomly killing civilians, we were made to retreat. If the grunts and higher ups just kept it simple, perhaps we'd done better.

I find it highly noticeable how so many of the s justifying this tend to be conservative, when it comes down to it, the conservative far right in this country are not far different from jihadists. Both a plague to humanity and worthy of a bullet to the head.

And some of you wonder why America has lost respect in the world. Worldwide we're looked down upon. Nobody falls for that "freedom, liberty" BS anymore

lol

[hehateme]

Seeing how your comeback had nothing to do with the topic at hand, yeah it is.

lol resorting to "you're gay!" jokes once your argument is shut down

Argument?... son this "debate" was over once you couldn't even answer a simple question and only resorted to nothing but mindless, self-opinion banter.

You are laughable at best...but good "comeback" got <---oh look another gay joke for you to reply about.