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    If they don't leave which is a big IF at this point then I think the league will have to revamp the revenue distribution. Texas would agree to this and distribute some revenue from the LHN if allowed to keep it as well.

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    There are already rumors swirling about this.

    • Texas will agree to equal revenue sharing on first and second tier games.


    • The Big 12's next scheduled meeting is set for next Thursday, most likely in person, and the ADs will continue to meet via conference calls and individual connections.


    And here's the most interesting point...
    • If OU decides to commit to the Big 12 there is some talk that the Big 12 as we know it could fold and come back under a new name. That would include new headquarters and new leadership.
    As part of the agreement, there will likely be equal revenue sharing of 1st and
    2nd tier rights."

    That's a start..

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    There are already rumors swirling about this.






    That's a start..
    interesting.

    link?

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    There are already rumors swirling about this.






    That's a start..
    LHN is third tier, so no sharing. I believe none of this by the way. But I did see the greatest post ever and I thought I would share it. Take it away Billy Looch.

    As I said last night, the ball is now squarely back in the SEC’s court. Conversations with Texas A&M cranked up again early this morning. Things have quieted down considerably over the past twelve hours on the heels of a chaotic Wednesday, with the Aggies and Southeastern Conference working to get things figured out. While both sides scramble to come up with ideas, this corner cannot help but ask, “What’s left to discuss?” It’s time for the SEC to step up and get a deal done. For over a month now, the Aggies have taken every step that Mike Slive and the SEC have asked them to take. R. Bowen Loftin and the TAMU regents have patiently engaged in a six-week game of “Simon Says.” Back and forth, left and right, hand on head … enough already! The Ags have done everything they’ve been asked to do, knowing that as things drug out, the likelihood of either Dan Beebe or one of the Big 12’s Texas schools throwing up a significant road block increased exponentially.

    Now — thanks to negotiations that drug out longer than they should have and a desperate group of parasites led by the most de able of them all — Texas A&M has been given the ‘stop’ sign as they round third and head for home. The Aggies are currently being held hostage by the looming threat of litigation from Baylor president Ken Starr (the Bears now being joined by fellow Big 12 bottom-feeders Iowa State and Kansas State) and Dan Beebe is complicit — neither smart nor strong enough to convince Baylor to stand down by presenting the league with a definitive plan for its post-A&M future. Despite all of the arrogance, hypocrisy and sheer stupidity on the Big 12 end, this entire conundrum could be resolved if the Slive and SEC presidents would handle things off the field like their teams do on the field. If an opponent is blocking your path to the goal line (or greatness), you run right through his ass and into the end zone. In this case, the opponent is none other than Baylor. Slive and the SEC should do to Starr what LSU, Alabama and just about anyone else in that league would do to the Bears on the gridiron: Run through him like water.

    That happens as soon as the SEC announces that their invitation to Texas A&M is no longer held back by an incredibly restrictive condition. Make the Aggie offer unconditional and Ken Starr, Baylor and probably even Dan Beebe and the Big 12 go away. For good. More importantly, the SEC would then officially ensure their future as the premier conference in all of collegiate athletics. Anyone who has followed the A&M/SEC dance over the past few weeks realizes that the league is, to a fault, incredibly wary of the threat of the litigation. Like anyone possessing even the most base level of legal knowledge, the league presidents understand that neither Baylor nor anyone else in the Big 12 has the ability to level any sort of legitimate tampering claim. It’s not that the SEC is afraid of losing a lawsuit ... they’re simply worried about actually being sued. Starr and Baylor are literally preying on those fears and, as a result, holding things up in grand fashion. For a deeper look into the SEC mindset, consider recent quotes by both Beebe and LSU Chancellor Michael Martin. When asked about conference realignment in today’s Baton Rouge advocate, Martin’s answer was telling: “We don’t want to look like jerks,” the Chancellor explained. “We don’t want to look like the conference that’s trying to maul the other conferences, including the Big 12. It (expansion) won’t be initiated by the SEC. We want to maintain our integrity in that regard.” Meanwhile, a statement released by Beebe yesterday began with one of the few interesting comments to ever leave his mouth: “This is the first time to my knowledge that a conference has been requested to waive any legal claims toward another conference for any damages suffered with a membership change.” Perception, above perhaps all else, has always been a serious issue as far as the SEC is concerned. If that’s the case, then the league may want to take a step back and really consider what’s at stake in terms of national image. As of today, the SEC can choose one of two paths. Slive and the league can do what they want to do and add Texas A&M as the thirteenth member of their conference. With that, of course, comes assuming the risk that Baylor, ISU or KSU could sue. Basically, the SEC would be calling what is clearly a Baylor bluff. The Bears have no case whatsoever against the SEC or Slive himself (as threatened). “Frivolous at best, laughable at worst,” is how BU’s case has been described to me by a prominent attorney. The real risk? Baylor sues and drags out a weak, baseless lawsuit for an extended period of time. Obviously, this is the worst-case scenario and what’s currently holding the SEC (and, as a result, TAMU) back. What the SEC presidents need to consider now, however, is the risk of sitting back and doing nothing. Waiting a few days or even a couple of weeks for the Big 12 to either explode or stabilize, thus laying out a clear path for A&M to join the conference, appears to be the most likely course of action. While that possibility definitely exists, so does the chance that the league attempts to keep a disgruntled group of Aggies in the Big 12 while continuing to lob legal salvos towards the southeast. One would think that the Beebe and the Big 12 would want nothing to do with a team so desperately seeking a way out but how, after all that has transpired over the course of the past three months, can anyone in their right mind expect Beebe and Co. to make the best long-term decision?

    Based on everything I’ve gathered, I am firmly convinced that the SEC higher-ups believe that Oklahoma and Texas will resolve their differences, thus saving the Big 12. Add BYU, get back to ten teams and ‘it’s all good.’ What I don’t think Slive and his league presidents are counting on is OU, Oklahoma State, Tech and yes, even the Texas Longhorns all packing up and heading west. Let’s face facts: Oklahoma and OSU are all but out the door and Texas Tech is probably much further down the road than anyone seems to think. Despite all of the wild rumors floating around since uncertainty began to cloud the conference landscape late Tuesday night, the most likely (and credibly-sourced) scenario involves the Pac-12 morphing into a 16-team league in the very near future. By pressing pause even after deciding that adding A&M is the desired play, the SEC essentially risks much more — from both a monetary and perception standpoint — than a frivolous lawsuit being levied. For starters, by sending out Florida president and SEC chair Bernie Machen’s release on Wednesday, the nation’s most powerful conference essentially painted itself into a corner. In summary, what the league said was, ‘We want to add Texas A&M but the threat by a specific Big 12 team is holding us back.’ A power play and direct attempt to force a reeling Big 12 to intervene, thus completely eliminating the one thing separating the Aggies and SEC from a perfect, no-strings-attached union. What the league didn’t plan on was Starr and Baylor feeling backed into a corner, with complete and total desperation having already set in. The Bears didn’t blink, not at all considering the world around them: A&M is gone and the only chance the Big 12 has at survival involves cutting the Aggies completely loose as quickly as possible. As it stands now, Baylor and their decision-makers are so blinded by envy, fear and their own self-preservation instinct that logic has been thrown right out the window … so much so that the Bear brass doesn’t seem to realize (or care) that their actions have drawn national scorn and ridicule while also potentially making BU a program that most conferences wouldn’t want to touch with a ten-foot pole moving forward. With the eyes of the entire nation upon the “A&M Hostage Crisis,” will the mighty SEC actually sit back and allow the Baylor Bears to prevent their desired expansion plans from happening? If they do, how much more difficult will expanding the Southeastern Conference borders be in the future? From this point forward, every conference in the country will know the blueprint for keeping the SEC from poaching its teams. Threaten to sue and don’t back off of it. Evidently, the mere threat of litigation is like Kryptonite for these guys. Of even greater concern for the SEC should be visionary commissioner Larry Scott and the aggressive, ever-expanding Pac-12. The conference is already deep into negotiations with at least three and probably four Big 12 teams and are on the verge of becoming the nation’s first 16-team superconference. If Larry Scott adds OU, OSU and Tech (sources tell me that all three have been offered), the next move will be to find team No. 16, with Texas being the prime candidate. Finding a way to make that happen will be difficult but Scott has definitely been the man making things happen of late. If those dominoes fall, not only will the Pac get to 16 teams before the SEC moves from 12, but the league will also suddenly include over 70 million television sets and canvas half of America. The Pac-16 would be playing games in three different time zones and officially plant its flag in the coveted Texas market.

    By adding A&M today, the SEC could go a long way towards thwarting such a move as the Baylors of the world shift their focus back to where it should be — on saving the Big 12. Any and all chances of Big 12 survival hinge on A&M quickly breaking away and DeLoss Dodds and Dan Beebe adding BYU and presenting a plan that includes equal revenue sharing and certain Longhorn Network restrictions for Oklahoma and the rest of the conference. Until the SEC makes its move and welcomes Texas A&M unconditionally, this won’t happen. In the meantime, Scott and the Pac-12 will push aggressively and without fear of legal attacks emanating from Waco or anywhere else to close deals. By playing the waiting game, the SEC not only watches as the Pac surge to the top of the conference pecking order, they also risk losing the entire Texas market. Sure, the odds of A&M joining forces with some combination of OU, OSU, Texas and Tech to make a four-team move are unlikely, but it’s a possibility that is in play as long as this thing drags out. At what point do the A&M decision-makers decide that no option is off the table and go with the first unconditional offer that comes their way? The Aggies covet the SEC with every fiber of their being and the Southeastern Conference clearly wants A&M, as evidenced by Tuesday’s unanimous vote but, at some point, frustration will mount … especially if TAMU continues to be hung out to dry (to an extent) by a league that prides itself on protecting its own. If that happens, the Texas television market (and the millions of dollars that go along with it) is gone for good. So is a program that fits the SEC’s culture like Cinderella’s glass slipper. This is the most unlikely of scenarios, but it is one that certainly exists the longer the Aggies are left twisting in the wind. While some in SEC-land fail to see the true, across-the-board value of what Texas A&M brings to the table, the impact of expanding the Southeastern Conference’s footprint to include the Lone Star State is undeniable. It’s basically the final frontier for a league that has practically everything else. Nothing Slive and the league could do expansion-wise carries the weight of adding one of Texas’ two flagship universities … and Texas A&M currently sits in limbo, waiting for the SEC to pull the trigger. On every level, the SEC has achieved its lofty status by being very patient and deliberate. I get that. They’ve also been strong, bold and led by forward-thinkers. At this summer’s SEC media day event, Mike Slive made the following statement: “I could get to 16 (teams) in 15 minutes.” It’s time to make another statement, Mr. Commissioner. Send the message that the SEC is still THE dominant force in intercollegiate athletics. Forget about 16 for now ... go ahead and get to 13 already.
    That's how you make money.

  5. #280
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    Take it away Billy Looch.
    no Billy....it's Baylor that is holding us hostage, not the SEC

    ....it's goddam unmerican

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    This thread was destined for failure, as Bill Byrne has had nothing to do with the realignment. Our President, Loftin, has been the one doing all of the negotiating.

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    11 pages is far from failure.

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    This thread was destined for failure, as Bill Byrne has had nothing to do with the realignment. Our President, Loftin, has been the one doing all of the negotiating.
    Loftin is an awesome president

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    11 pages is far from failure.
    The foundation is cracking.

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    lol post #2

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    The idea that this thread was original made on was wrong. This thread has just become a place of discussion. Your initial post was a complete failure. Not particularly surprising, considering you're you.

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    The idea that this thread was original made on was wrong. This thread has just become a place of discussion. Your initial post was a complete failure. Not particularly surprising, considering you're you.
    what?

    did Byrne turn Dodds' proposal down or not?

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    what?

    did Byrne turn Dodds' proposal down or not?
    We should have taken a 70/30 split?

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    We should have taken a 70/30 split?
    Money or financial split was not discussed, Dodds said, because he believed the schools would have to pay to get the network on the air.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/col...-longhorns.ece
    Dodds says Byrne didn't show much interest.

    Byrne confirms it.

    Byrne is an awesome AD.

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    Dodds says Byrne didn't show much interest.

    Byrne confirms it.

    Byrne is an awesome AD.
    Dodds has always been an honest, upstanding man. I'm sure he did his best to cooperate with other Universities, as he always has. What a great man.

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    Dodds has always been an honest, upstanding man. I'm sure he did his best to cooperate with other Universities, as he always has. What a great man.
    If you say so.

    All I know is that Byrne is an awesome AD

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    Dodds has always been an honest, upstanding man. I'm sure he did his best to cooperate with other Universities, as he always has. What a great man.
    When hasn't he cooperated?

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    OU dosent want equal revenue shareing they already get a big peice of the pie and don't wanna lose it.
    You do know that OU voted for and receives the same amount of league revenue as Texas? Right? You know this? Their problem isn't the revenue sharing. You do know that Aggy receives the same amount as OU and Texas, right? You know this? The ones who recieve the least are not the ones who are always ing, crying, leaving, coming back, leaving, and getting -blocked. Revenue sharing isn't the problem here.
    Please post one piece of evidence that states anything about OU and equal revenue sharing.


    I ask you to give me something tied to OU and revenue sharing (i.e. Stoops, Boren, Castiglione, Toby Keith, any dumb who played for the school, any booster, any head fan) and you give me a OSU booster who wants more revenue for his school. Good job.
    that's one of the dumber lines of reasoning I've seen in this thread.
    it's beyond ing re ed to assume that OU would want to share one dollar with the Baylor krew to keep them around.
    You honestly believe that OU will take a smaller piece of the pie?

    We all see you are wrong right now.
    They haven't taken that stance. They haven't taken any revenue stance. What's so hard about this? That you made a re ed statement that was wrong and now you feel you can't retract? Just say you were wrong.



    AP_JeffLatzk: #Oklahoma president Boren says he's only focused on #Pac12, or trying to save a #Big12 with equal sharing of TV revenue.

    So who was wrong Kermit, Blake, pbgtsdfsdre?

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    AP_JeffLatzk: #Oklahoma president Boren says he's only focused on #Pac12, or trying to save a #Big12 with equal sharing of TV revenue.

    So who was wrong Kermit, Blake, pbgtsdfsdre?

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    AP_JeffLatzk: #Oklahoma president Boren says he's only focused on #Pac12, or trying to save a #Big12 with equal sharing of TV revenue.

    So who was wrong Kermit, Blake, pbgtsdfsdre?
    Let me know when OU takes a pay cut to keep baylor.

    Lmao at the rumors flying around.

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    Boren is certainly talking like he would take a paycut for Baylor. But the more likely scenario is that Boren is just trying to make Texas the scapegoat for OU's move to the Pac.

    Boren has previously said he would consider the league a better option if it expanded back to 12 teams, and he said Monday that better revenue sharing must also be in place for the Sooners to stick around.

    “Our goal is to be an equal partner in any network, and we think it ought to be the goal of every other member of any conference that we’re a part of to be an equal member of that conference,” Boren said.

    “We all ought to value each other—every single member of that conference — and none of us should seek to play a stronger leadership role than anyone else.”

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ncerealignment

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    Finally.

    But it is not to be believed.

    And are Aggies unable to post links?

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    The article was recently written.

    Realignment Notebook: David Boren says Texas TV network unfair

    BY TRAVIS HANEY, Staff Writer, [email protected] 4
    Published: September 19, 2011


    Asked Monday about the Longhorn Network, Oklahoma president David Boren made it clear he still does not think Texas' own TV channel makes for fairness – in the Big 12 or any other league.

    University of Oklahoma president David Boren leaves the OU regents meeting room after he was given authority by them to explore conference realignment after they met in executive session at the OU Schusterman Campus in Tulsa, OK Sept. 19, 2011


    Realignment Notebook: David Boren says Texas TV network unfair
    Boren made the comments following an OU Board of Regents meeting in which he was given authority to make a decision about whether to stay in the Big 12 or join an expanded Pac-12 that could include Texas.
    “Whatever conference we join, or whatever conference we stay in – those are obviously the two major options – the University of Oklahoma has no ambition to dominate any conference,” Boren said after being asked about the network. “We simply have the ambition of being a member, an equal member, of any conference, playing by the same rules, by having a level playing field for all the members of that conference and developing a high level of trust in each other. That's our goal. That's what we're after.”
    Boren again echoed concerns from Sooners coach Bob Stoops about a perceived recruiting advantage, if high school games or highlights are allowed to be shown on the Longhorn Network.
    “You can play highlights and your highlights just might happen to focus on some of those players who were your top recruits,” he said. “Now, is that a level playing field on recruiting? I don't think so. We're for a level playing field. We want to see a conference in which all the members play an equal role.”


    Read more: http://newsok.com/realignment-notebo...#ixzz1YSg3R6TP

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    So you're wrong. Once again.

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    I never made any claims to be wrong.

    Did you even go to college?

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