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    define "getting down to business". pretty much everyone in music/film/media/what have you use macs. swear by it. i can speak from personal experience that mac is the way to go for music production. i've personally found it less hassling and every studio i've recorded in. maybe i'm not "getting down to business"
    Like I mentioned before in an earlier post. Some nitch professions will be using Macs. I worked in one of those industry's and have first hand knowledge. But the fact is that It's a mirage. When it comes to certain applications I can understand using a Mac. But you can do most of those functions with applications using a Windows based OS on a PC just as well. The PC is customizable, cost effective and when it comes down to the OS you can customize business apps to integrate processes. Your not doing that with a piece of fruit.

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    Ah, so what I covered in my initial post. Got ya

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    Ah, so what I covered in my initial post. Got ya

    I'm sorry what did you cover? The fact that PC's are indeed superior to Macs?

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    Whatever works for you, I saaaaaaaiiiiiddddd

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    Just switched from PC to Mac. I watched in disgust as my PC did a spinning wheel and then interpeted some previous command as a "delete all my emails in Outlook (LookOut) command." Windows is a ty, undependable OS and MS programs, especially Lookout, are buggy as . I use my computer to run a business and I need something that works without screwing up. I am more technical than the average person but I do not have time to jack around with the computer-it just needs to do what it is supposed to do.
    Ended up that I had to install Windows on the Mac because I could not find a good subs ute for ACT and I discovered, ironically, that Windows seems more stable running in Parallels.
    I am happy I switched. Now I get my work done and spend less time messing around trying to get the computer to do what it needs to do. A PC seems like a bad investment when you measure the cost of time you have to spend jacking around with them to get things done. I place a high value on my time.




    *****************BINGO!*******************


    Nailed it.

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    I've used PCs since they were first introduced. I've never had to spend time jacking around with them to get things done.

    Anything seems like a bad investment if you have problems.
    ****************Well....I am not gonna call you a liar....but you must be the FIRST person in the history of computers....that NEVER had a problem with a PC based computer....


    WOW!

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    I have a PC running Windows 7 and an old iBook G4. The iBook is slow as now (it's like 7 years old) but it's still kicking pretty good. My desktop is old as well, but pretty futureproof when I bought it so it has no problem with Windows 7 64 bit.

    The one thing I did notice is that starting with Vista and moving to 7, Windows stole a lot of things that my old iBook was doing 7 years ago. Someone mentioned that Windows 7 was superior to OS X but that's not true. OS X is ahead of Windows easily. Windows 7 was just starting to catch up to an OS that was 5 yrs old when 7 released. Don't get me wrong, I really like Windows 7, but my previous OS X experience made the switch from XP to Vista/7 so much easier.
    *****************Another Winner-winner chicken dinner!!!!!!************

    PC's catch up to MACS like 5 to 10 years later....and all the ads for the new mega super-super NEW windows....is only bringing "features" that Macs have had for almost a decade....

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    define "getting down to business". pretty much everyone in music/film/media/what have you use macs. swear by it. i can speak from personal experience that mac is the way to go for music production. i've personally found it less hassling and every studio i've recorded in. maybe i'm not "getting down to business"

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    I'm sorry what did you cover? The fact that PC's are indeed superior to Macs?
    you mustn't read real well. can't help you there.

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    ****************Well....I am not gonna call you a liar....but you must be the FIRST person in the history of computers....that NEVER had a problem with a PC based computer....


    WOW!
    Prison life must make your reading comprehension skills dull.

    I've never had to jack around with a PC. I've built them, upgraded them, you name it.

    Anyone who considers computer upkeep as "jacking around" needs a Mac, because they are too stupid to own a PC.

    I guess by those standards, I've jacked around with my vehicles by changing my own oil and transmission fluids, doing flushes, fuel filter changes and such instead of getting a Prius and getting down to business.

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    *****************Another Winner-winner chicken dinner!!!!!!************

    PC's catch up to MACS like 5 to 10 years later....and all the ads for the new mega super-super NEW windows....is only bringing "features" that Macs have had for almost a decade....
    Do you know the difference between an operating system and a PC?

    Idiot

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    I'm sorry what did you cover? The fact that PC's are indeed superior to Macs?
    oh and WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! I thought you were "schooling" me that PC is not a operating system. of course a whole computer can be superior over a mere OS.

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    oh and WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! I thought you were "schooling" me that PC is not a operating system. of course a whole computer can be superior over a mere OS.
    you mustn't read real well. can't help you there.

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    I've used PCs since they were first introduced. I've never had to spend time jacking around with them to get things done.
    You might be the exception then, at least until fairly recently.

    Nowadays I mostly use PC/Macs/Unix, but I started off basically since the personal computer was introduced (Commodore 64, Amiga, Atari ST, etc)

    Until recently, Windows always had a way to corrupt itself at some point or another. BSOD, freezes, whatever you want to call it. Even basic stuff like installing a network printer or updating drivers could end up with the all not uncommon "You need to reinstall windows".

    Now, for anybody with memory, MacOS 7, 8 and 9 had relatively the same problems though, at least as far as crashes/freezes are concerned.

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    Prison life must make your reading comprehension skills dull.

    I've never had to jack around with a PC. I've built them, upgraded them, you name it.

    Anyone who considers computer upkeep as "jacking around" needs a Mac, because they are too stupid to own a PC.

    I guess by those standards, I've jacked around with my vehicles by changing my own oil and transmission fluids, doing flushes, fuel filter changes and such instead of getting a Prius and getting down to business.
    i do considerably less jacking around on my macbook pro than what i did with my pc. i even made a thread in the geek forum asking what all things i need to jack around when i got my macbook pro. i felt pretty dumb because, after time, i've learned that no jacking around is needed BUT that is not to say I need jacking around while I do regular ho hum stuff.

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    Calling people that value their time "dumb", is pretty dumb, tbh

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    I don't know what is meant by "jacking around" but I've almost always had to tweak windows in some way to get it to run optimally for me. I've never used a MacOS machine for very long so I can't really comment on them but I find it hard to believe they don't require some tweaking as well. If they truly do not, then that is indeed impressive.

    That being said, I've never had problems with viruses or big time crashing on my computers outside of hardware failure. I've used computers for 17 years so. I think the virus issue has more to do with the ignorance or stupidity of a user rather than the OS.

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    Prison life must make your reading comprehension skills dull.

    I've never had to jack around with a PC. I've built them, upgraded them, you name it.

    Anyone who considers computer upkeep as "jacking around" needs a Mac, because they are too stupid to own a PC.

    I guess by those standards, I've jacked around with my vehicles by changing my own oil and transmission fluids, doing flushes, fuel filter changes and such instead of getting a Prius and getting down to business.
    Maybe you should research a little about Macs...and you will find out that...
    there is no need for "computer upkeep"...as this would take valuable time away for the work you are trying to accomplish...or from the fun you are having on your Mac...while PC users are "upkeeping"...

    This is a big thing that surprises many people when they switch over to Macs...they are pleasantly surprised to find out that things just make sense on a Mac and they are user friendly...

    It does not mean that it makes anyone stupid...the statement you made is what is stupid...

    it is like saying that you'd rather have a car that breaks down on you regularly and leaves you stranded...because this makes you a "competent" car owner...while those idiots who drive around in dependable cars are doing so because they are too stupid to fix the car....

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    FWIW, I don't spend anytime upkeeping anything on my laptop and it still runs as good as the day I got it. I'm not sure what time I'm wasting.

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    I don't know what is meant by "jacking around" but I've almost always had to tweak windows in some way to get it to run optimally for me. I've never used a MacOS machine for very long so I can't really comment on them but I find it hard to believe they don't require some tweaking as well. If they truly do not, then that is indeed impressive.

    That being said, I've never had problems with viruses or big time crashing on my computers outside of hardware failure. I've used computers for 17 years so. I think the virus issue has more to do with the ignorance or stupidity of a user rather than the OS.
    Fact is, if you know what you're buying, you know what baggage it comes with.
    I've had my good share of Windows reinstalls, and my good share of Mac crashes or hardware failures.

    Windows 7 and MacOS X have really mitigated a lot of those problems too.

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    From a usage standpoint, the "superior" system is what works for you, IMO.

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    Fact is, if you know what you're buying, you know what baggage it comes with.
    I've had my good share of Windows reinstalls, and my good share of Mac crashes or hardware failures.

    Windows 7 and MacOS X have really mitigated a lot of those problems too.
    I've had a few bad rounds with BSOD and windows re installs but in each case the culprit turned out to be bad memory or a bad HDD.

    One thing that was definitely more noticeable in older versions of windows (I'm thinking 95 and 98) was the lag that would develop after time. Your system would generally slow down and a new format/windows install might help you get speed.

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    Hey chief when you buy a mac do you realize your done with it? aside from maybe a memory upgrade at very expensive prices your stuck with what you purchased. I can take my PC and do what ever the I want with it. If I want to run all OS known to man I can. Its called virtualization. Not only that I can customize the hardware needed. What can you do with that piece of fruit?

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    From a usage standpoint, the "superior" system is what works for you, IMO.
    Agree completely.

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