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  1. #76
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    Of course, when other teams sign solid, fair price WRs next year and the Cards can't, I'll be sure to point it out.
    Cardinals outsmarted everyone. You will see that they got a "bargain" for Fitz when the elite RBs and WRs start asking for money.
    Cardinals basically ed everyone else by raising the bar.

  2. #77
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    Cardinals outsmarted everyone. You will see that they got a "bargain" for Fitz when the elite RBs and WRs start asking for money.
    Cardinals basically ed everyone else by raising the bar.
    lol

    The teams that follow the fins and cards lead by over paying for wide receivers and even running backs will be outdumbing themselves, tbh

  3. #78
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    Fitz is a beast and can catch bad throws but he is not a god who can catch balls sailing 10 feet over his head.
    For that type of cash he should

  4. #79
    Yeah this is re ed. Its not like Arizona couldve gone and signed Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. They got Fitz, and he's a monster.

    If the Cardinals had an ounce of a running game, they could force teams into single high looks that prevent them from double teaming and bracketing Fitz the entire game.

    Then Fitz can dominate. But if you have no QB and no Running game, it's going to be hard for any WR to do anything.

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    But they have a running game now. Did you see how strong beanie wells is in actual games or are you just basing your comments on replies in this thread?

    And Kolb is a QB who is not afraid to make mistakes by forcing everything to Fitz unlike the spineless QBs the Cards have last year. A Larry Fitzgerald will make all your WRs, TEs and RBs better by getting them open.

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    21-0 Vikings (0-4) with 7 minutes left in the 1st qtr.

    Fire this mother ing Steeler culture imitating dumbass Ken Whisenhunt already!

  7. #82
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    It's quickly getting to the point where I'm actually pissed they won their season opener.

    If that win keeps them from Luck, I don't even know how upset I'll be.

  8. #83
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    It's quickly getting to the point where I'm actually pissed they won their season opener.

    If that win keeps them from Luck, I don't even know how upset I'll be.
    What will probably piss you off more is what if they somehow get the 1st pick. Will they get Luck after overpaying for Kolb...because if this will be the case, they could've just signed any QB and they would've still had a competent CB, 2nd rd pick and cap space for a 2WR.

    I just want the whole coaching staff gone now. The moves Whis makes are real head scratchers.

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    You take Luck regardless. I'm not even sure teams like St. Louis, or Detroit opt a different choice. You take Luck and figure it all out later.

    I believe the Cardinals draft luck and play Kolb for one more season, then trade him. Chances are Kolb will be better in year two (even Warner was average his first years with the Cardinals). Draft Luck, let him develop a year, showcase Kolb and trade him for a picks.

  10. #85
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    True.
    Kolb can be cut in his 2nd year. This is basically a 2 yr workout for him. But I dont think it's him that's the problem. It's the poor evaluation of talent by the coaches.

    Kolb is a gun slinger, mobile and well coached in philly. It's the lack of movement in the Oline. I mean, how will Kolb bomb his throws to Fitz if he is constantly being chased out of the pocket easily.

    And the defensive personnel...lots of holes in that area.

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    You don't cut Kolb. You trade him. He's still a QB and a young one with good mobility and strong arm. He's worth something even if he's replaced by Luck.

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    When Whiz is fired, Rod Graves should be as well. He's the common denominator of all the ty decisions Green and Whiz have made, and it's inexplicable to me why he's not even on the hot seat after so many dumb draft choices he's made.

    Who they should hire as the new coach is anyone's guess, but it better not be some got who's in love with the Steelers organization.

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    A college coach is enough for this college level team.

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    Rod Graves great draft decisions:

    #2 overall Leonard Davis
    #12 overall Wendell Bryant
    Trades a top 10 pick away that coulda been used on Terrell Suggs (who was begging for the Cardinals to draft him) so he could take

    #17 overall Bryant Johnson
    #10 overall Matt Leinart
    #5 overall Levi Brown
    #16 overall DRC
    #26 overall lazy fat Dan Wiliams


    affirmative action gone wrong if I've ever seen it

  15. #90
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    I'll probably voice my concern by not going to the next home game. Im usually a strong supporter after a tough loss and try to bring in an army of my friends to the following home game even if they dont want to anymore but this one is just a disgusting showing of lack of interest by the players.

    If they wont take action then they will lose ticket sales.

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    SUCK FOR LUCK!

    I'm on board!

  17. #92
    Kolb is terrible, it was evident from the beginning IMO..I still don't understand the hype..

  18. #93
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    Im not a Kolb fan but the TO's were not on him. He got picked because a lineman tipped the ball. He lost a fumble because the RG werent able to stop Allen. He got no time in the pocket at all.

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    When has affirmative action ever gone right?

    Rod Graves great draft decisions:

    #2 overall Leonard Davis
    #12 overall Wendell Bryant
    Trades a top 10 pick away that coulda been used on Terrell Suggs (who was begging for the Cardinals to draft him) so he could take

    #17 overall Bryant Johnson
    #10 overall Matt Leinart
    #5 overall Levi Brown
    #16 overall DRC
    #26 overall lazy fat Dan Wiliams




    affirmative action gone wrong if I've ever seen it

  20. #95
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    Mike Tomlin

    Most black coaches suck, but occasionally there are a few like Mike Tomlin and Raheem Morris who are surrounded with really good assistants who take care of all the actual technical stuff while all the head coach has to worry about is motivating the team with African battle cries.

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    Mike Tomlin

    Most black coaches suck, but occasionally there are a few like Mike Tomlin and Raheem Morris who are surrounded with really good assistants who take care of all the actual technical stuff while all the head coach has to worry about is motivating the team with African battle cries.
    I wish Tomlin would text this kind of strategy to Whis. Id just like him to leave the playcalling to the OC and just manage the game and players.

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    Agreed, Whiz's ego is what's killing him. He says moronic things to the press and then entrenches himself in what he says just because he doesn't wanna be proven wrong.

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    Agreed, Whiz's ego is what's killing him. He says moronic things to the press and then entrenches himself in what he says just because he doesn't wanna be proven wrong.
    Sounds like me.

  24. #99
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    I'm really not sure anything Whiz has ever done has worked out. He was buoyed and then elevated by Warner. Couldn't develop a line, a running game, a young QB and still can't. His defense has never equaled the sum of its parts, and they've regressed significantly each of the last three years.

    I said of D'Antoni his litmus test of effective coaching would come without Nash. Similar with Whiz and Warner.

  25. #100
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    Fitz is now complaining about the lack of help and the evaluation of talent by mr Whizenhunt. He even subtly rips Roberts and Doucet for their lack of talent.

    At the start of the season, Steve Breaston, Braylon Edwards, Lee Evans and Malcom Floyd were available and Whiz brushed them all off saying they are not going to fit in the system. Now, with a 1-4 start and the offense sputtering, Brandon Lloyd became available for a measly 6th rd pick and the Cardinals didnt even inquire about him.

    He knows his defense will struggle with a new coach and poor personnel so at least what he could've done was to get Fitz some help and outgun the other team to make up for the points they are going to give up.

    I hope they fire this dumb mother ing stubborn, culture envy coach this season.

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