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That doesn't have to do with anything. You said a team isn't a relying on a player when he has 30 more targets than anyone else, which is a re ed opinion.
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I never claimed the Pats would win a SB with The Natural as the #1. Name me one team in the NFL with 2 TEs with better stats than Gronk/Hernandez.
Im waiting.
That doesn't have to do with anything. You said a team isn't a relying on a player when he has 30 more targets than anyone else, which is a re ed opinion.
who cares if they are over-relying on him.
he's kicking ass and so is the Pats offense.
if anything, Welker is underrated.
The Pats offense is kicking ass? Have you watched the last 2 games?
Overrelying on Welker is a proven recipe for failure (2007, 2009, and it'll happen again this year).
At least you're willing to accept the obvious that they're over relying on Welker.
No, re ed is taking what somebody says out of context amd trying to make it look like they said something that they didnt.
So you admit Brady over relies on Welker then? Thanks for playing.
No. I dont think he over relies on anybody. I pointed out that he throws to his TEs more than Welker, esp. in the red zone, as evidenced by their 11 TDs to his 6. I think theyll end up OK if they can sort out the defense, which played a nice first half yesterday.
In essence you think that what the Pats are doing by relying on (mostly)Welker to move the ball between the 20s and having TEs do work when they get to the RZ is stupid. I think the jurys still out.
But I will say that they need to find a reliable, consistent running game.
yeah. The Pats D and running game both suck equal amounts of ass.
steelers game:
Gronk 9 targets
Welker 8
Branch 7
Giants game:
Gronk 15 targets
Welker 10 (9 rec 136 yds)
seems to me that the should have gone back to the tried and true method of over-relying on Welker
DoK is right tbh
The Pats need a legit #1 WR with size who can run real routes. Welker is good at his natural position, slot receiver, but isn't one who can take over games consistently
Nobody 'needs' a legit #1 receiver to take over games and win a SB.
Huge myth, tbh.
It was a myth a few years ago, the NFL has gotten so pass oriented that you need a great group of receivers to win it all.
Yeah, the Patriots' offense sucks so Brady is forced to throw to guys like Gronk and Welker way more than he should. It's not like I'm saying they'd get better simply by not having Welker.
You have to take into account that defenses have been keying in on Welker. They have to find more ways to get him open.
A solid rushing attack could help.
Yeah that's why Welker falls apart in the 4th quarter. After 3 quarters teams eventually realize, "Oh, all Brady ever does is throw to Welker and none of his receivers are a threat to catch a pass > than 20 yards, we can just bring our safeties up and jam Welker."
Packers receivers arent that great.
Rodgers is.
Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, James Jones and Jordy Nelson kicks the living out of the group of receivers New England has.
which according to you would be better for the team?
true, but theyre still not that great.
If you're referring to over throwing to Welker or over throwing to Gronk, neither one is a better option than the other as they both will result in early playoff defeat.
The option I'd prefer is getting a competent 1st and 2nd wideout so Brady doesn't force the ball to any receiver.
theres nothing anywhere other than your ass that suggests Brady is forcing passes.
the NE offense and passing game is currently Super Bowl caliber, imo.
We've been saying that the last several years and then watching it come up flat in the playoffs. Against good pass defenses, the passing attack has been inconsistent and ty this year. It looks good on paper because it has games like the Dolphins one that inflate its numbers.
This offense doesn't seem any different, it looks just as ty as the 2009 offense.
why are tech fans so defensive? we're not saying welker sucks or that we wish he wasn't on the team, we're just saying there's no way you can win playoff games consistently when Welker is far and away the #1 option on offense. If you'd like to dispute that, please point to all of Welker's SB rings.
Individually, no.
But as a core they are, especially adding Finley to the mix.
do the Jets have a good pass defense?
pick a game you are referring to
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