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    Did she say she has a 13 year old son?

    July 1997?

    You know, her story is something bad for Cain being married, but even by her statement, he never pushed. She needed a job, was going there to ask him a favor, and booked a hotel room to meet him... maybe she intentionally or accidentally lead him on... That's assuming her story is even true.

    Is Cain being swift boated?

    Again, we really don't know the truth. Unless something factual comes out worse than this, at worse, this is and attempt to cheat on his wife.

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    Did she say she has a 13 year old son?

    July 1997?

    You know, her story is something bad for Cain being married, but even by her statement, he never pushed. She needed a job, was going there to ask him a favor, and booked a hotel room to meet him... maybe she intentionally or accidentally lead him on... That's assuming her story is even true.

    Is Cain being swift boated?

    Again, we really don't know the truth. Unless something factual comes out worse than this, at worse, this is and attempt to cheat on his wife.
    You are the worst kind of partisan hack.

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    This is also considered sexual harasment by some:


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    This is also considered sexual harasment by some:

    See what I mean?

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    You are the worst kind of partisan hack.
    Yep, I'm pretty bad at being a hack, because I'm not one.

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    Is Cain being swift boated?
    There's no PAC (i.e, any analogue to the Swift Boat Vets for Truth) involved, so no.

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    Yep, I'm pretty bad at being a hack, because I'm not one.
    And you can't understand English.

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    Was WC around here in 2004? Hard to imagine he thought swift boating was a bad thing the first time around.

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    Was WC around here in 2004? Hard to imagine he thought swift boating was a bad thing the first time around.
    My example compares with that those stories sounded so real at the time, but were later shown they were very unlikely true. These stories are starting to sound real, but what if they aren't?

    The law requires benefit of doubt before being judged guilty. Now that doesn't apply to our opinions, but wouldn't we be better people if we tried to live that way?

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    I'm not showing this example for partisan reasons. I dislike Obama and I like McCain. I don't care about D's or R's. I care about L's and C's, and who I think makes the better fit in the oval office, and Cain is a little more oval than Obama.

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    My example compares with that those stories sounded so real at the time, but were later shown they were very unlikely true. These stories are starting to sound real, but what if they aren't?

    The law requires benefit of doubt before being judged guilty. Now that doesn't apply to our opinions, but wouldn't we be better people if we tried to live that way when it suits our political agendas?
    Finished your thought.

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    These stories are starting to sound real, but what if they aren't?
    We'll never know to a legal certainty b/c the statute of limitations has elapsed for all four accusers. All we have to go on is our own opinions.

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    I'm not showing this example for partisan reasons. I dislike Obama and I like McCain. I don't care about D's or R's. I care about L's and C's, and who I think makes the better fit in the oval office, and Cain is a little more oval than Obama.
    Like I said, the worst kind.

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    We'll never know to a legal certainty b/c the statute of limitations has elapsed for all four accusers. All we have to go on is our own opinions.
    It seems to me... and yes, I could be wrong... that Cain is not being taken out by facts, so fiction may be the tool to take him out.

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    Like I said, the worst kind.
    Few people are worse than you Chump. You are the master baiter of this forum.

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    It seems to me... and yes, I could be wrong... that Cain is not being taken out by facts, so fiction may be the tool to take him out.
    All four ladies are lying, in your opinion?

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    Few people are worse than you Chump. You are the master baiter of this forum.
    You are one of the few.

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    So then, Cain gets a pass from WC because the the truth of the accusations against him (Cain) are not knowable to a legal certainty, but his own belief that Cain's accusers are lying can be asserted on mere fiat, even though this is just as far from being legally provable.

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    preaches water, drinks wine

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    What a surprise that WC gives the benefit of the doubt to a conservative.

    If this were aimed at a Democrat, do you think you'd give them the same leeway WC?

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    What a surprise that WC gives the benefit of the doubt to a conservative.

    If this were aimed at a Democrat, do you think you'd give them the same leeway WC?
    A conservative democrat... Yes.

    A liberal republican... No.

    We are all biased to some degree or another. We all to one degree or another will propagate good or bad ideas upon those we like or dislike.

    Again, this has nothing to do along party lines. It has to do with liberal or conservative views.

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    So then, Cain gets a pass from WC because the the truth of the accusations against him (Cain) are not knowable to a legal certainty, but his own belief that Cain's accusers are lying can be asserted on mere fiat, even though this is just as far from being legally provable.
    Tell me. If this fourth woman's accusations are true, what at worse does it mean?

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    The fourth woman essentially accuses Cain of unwanted sexual contact. It's the most serious of the allegations so far.

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    Unwanted sexual contact is misdemeanor-level sexual assault, a much worse charge than sexual harassment, which is usually a civil matter.

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