Thank You

[mavs>spurs]

What about it? I'm not very surprised. As US et all turn up the heat on Afghanistan, they're going to leak out into areas we aren't looking/fighting. Not to mention that the Middle East Muslim community aren't huge fans of us; there's probably some Libyans who are willing to take up their sowrds against us.

Not sure where you're going with this.

I'm talking about knowingly delivering Libya into the hands of Al Qaeda and training this guy at Guantanamo Bay to lead the cause


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_...Guantanamo_Bay





557 Abu Sufian bin Qumu Transferred

• Repatriated in the fall of 2007.[4] In 2011, he emerged as a rebel leader in the Libyan civil war against Muammar Gaddafi

[Spursfan092120]

JESUS!! Can we SHUT THE UP ALREADY?!?! Vets day was Friday...much love to all the Vets for all they've done...now let this ing thread die...PLEASE!!!

[JayTheClown]

JESUS!! Can we SHUT THE UP ALREADY?!?! Vets day was Friday...much love to all the Vets for all they've done...now let this ing thread die...PLEASE!!!

Dude, you just bumped the thread giving the thread life. I mean, I would like the thread to die to but....but.......... , I just bumped the thread to.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jesus]

JESUS!! Can we SHUT THE UP ALREADY?!?! Vets day was Friday...much love to all the Vets for all they've done...now let this ing thread die...PLEASE!!!

Hey!!!....watch your mouth!!! Oh, and I support our troops.

[Soul_Patch]

I think its comical that a bunch of ignorant kids (Dok, mouse2moose, et al.) really do think they have it all figured out. They're simply trying to enlighten the rest of us with their vast knowledge. You guys should probably go back to your bag of weed and your Occupy whatever protests, and let the rest of us live in "ignorance".

I know you took or are taking some classes in school on politics and history, but that doesnt automatically make you an expert...k?

[LnGrrrR]

I'm talking about knowingly delivering Libya into the hands of Al Qaeda and training this guy at Guantanamo Bay to lead the cause

And? Gaddafi sucked. I'm sure whoever replaced him will also suck. You might want to be less open-ended with your questions.

[Monostradamus]

I think its comical that a bunch of ignorant kids (Dok, mouse2moose, et al.) really do think they have it all figured out. They're simply trying to enlighten the rest of us with their vast knowledge. You guys should probably go back to your bag of weed and your Occupy whatever protests, and let the rest of us live in "ignorance".

I know you took or are taking some classes in school on politics and history, but that doesnt automatically make you an expert...k?

Sorry I was too busy laughing at the douchiest facial hair a human can grow to read whatever it is that you wrote.

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[mavs>spurs]

And? Gaddafi sucked. I'm sure whoever replaced him will also suck. You might want to be less open-ended with your questions.

So then what the was the point of bombing another country (an act of war) without congressional approval again? I mean if all we did was replace one asshole with another..doesn't make sense to me unless *GASP* we had our own ulterior motives for getting involved...

[LnGrrrR]

we had our own ulterior motives for getting involved...

I'm sure we did. I don't really know what you're getting at here.

[mavs>spurs]

I'm getting at the fact that America is so far gone that we all know we delivered Libya into the hands of jihadists, we all know that Obama did it without congressional approval, we all know that guys from Guantanamo lead the charge, we all know that we were fighting side by side with the al qaeda boogeyman, AND NOBODY GIVES A ING .

[mavs>spurs]

we all KNOW there were no wmd's, we KNOW that we are shipping the opium out of afghanistan and the soldiers grow it and guard the crops, we KNOW that the wars were a mistake, yet we are still there 10 years later, and NOBODY has been held accountable. Over 1 MILLION iraqi's dead, that's just unbelievable. You claim to be an intelligent sensible guy, so stop acting like what our military that you work for is doing the right things. You know it's ed up, I know it, the american people know it, you ain't convincing anyone..

[LnGrrrR]

we all KNOW there were no wmd's, we KNOW that we are shipping the opium out of afghanistan and the soldiers grow it and guard the crops, we KNOW that the wars were a mistake, yet we are still there 10 years later, and NOBODY has been held accountable. Over 1 MILLION iraqi's dead, that's just unbelievable. You claim to be an intelligent sensible guy, so stop acting like what our military that you work for is doing the right things. You know it's ed up, I know it, the american people know it, you ain't convincing anyone..

I think I've stated numerous times that I didn't agree with the Iraq war. But soldiers don't make the decisions on whether to go to war or not. Civilians do.

As I've said before, I'm rather isolationist myself.

[mavs>spurs]

Civilians do.

[LnGrrrR]

Does the military vote itself to go to war or not?

[mavs>spurs]

yeah the military people have a vote just like every civilian, so according to your theory then yes

[LnGrrrR]

yeah the military people have a vote just like every civilian, so according to your theory then yes

Your powers of deductive reasoning are slightly underwhelming.

[mavs>spurs]

I'm just playing by your rules, what's the matter don't like it brah? the military votes for who we go to war with in the same way that we "do"

[FortuneCookie]

In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. ~Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935

Do the right thing.

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[spursncowboys]

we all KNOW there were no wmd's, we KNOW that we are shipping the opium out of afghanistan and the soldiers grow it and guard the crops, we KNOW that the wars were a mistake, yet we are still there 10 years later, and NOBODY has been held accountable. Over 1 MILLION iraqi's dead, that's just unbelievable. You claim to be an intelligent sensible guy, so stop acting like what our military that you work for is doing the right things. You know it's ed up, I know it, the american people know it, you ain't convincing anyone..

we are shipping the opium, who are you referring to?

what soldiers grow opium and guard it?

You talk about afghanistan and then go to iraq. Who killed the one million iraqis?

Do you even know what the ROE in Afghanistan and Iraq are? What about the SOP's?

[LnGrrrR]

I'm just playing by your rules, what's the matter don't like it brah? the military votes for who we go to war with in the same way that we "do"

All citizens vote in representatives. Those representatives determine if we go to war or not. Can generals utilaterally decide to go to war against Congress?

[DMC]

yeah the military people have a vote just like every civilian, so according to your theory then yes

I see where you are going with this but it's a dead end and I think you realized it before you did it.

We vote for congressmen, we do not vote for wars. It's not put up to popular public vote.

You already know this, so you are basically equivocating the two "votes" to try to save face here.

Just admit you're wrong on this one and move on. You're not going to win it.