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    To your excellent comment, I'll add my excellent content: G F Y
    He has a point. Its as deplorable as what Darrin does.

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    security scans before are forced, nobody likes to be forced.
    Two comments err, questions:

    So is this really about the radiation boogeyman or about a perceived curtailing of freedoms? One has to wonder, no?

    and

    Isn't there something else offered to those who cannot or won't be scanned?

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    and we presume the TSA is lying about radiation until independent (if such exists) verifies.

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    I don't seek happiness I seek out people who lie to others for personal gain. And expose them before they can do anymore harm to others.

    Ok then. Why don't you explain how 1 microsievert of exposure causes the deformities in your picture? We eagerly await your synopsis. No links or you-tubes please. Just you and your keyboard.......google away.

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    and we presume the TSA is lying about radiation until independent (if such exists) verifies.
    I definitely buy the second. As for the TSA lying? I don't know as they've come out with a hard and fast figure on exposure yet. For the record, I do believe that the risk to operators is substantial. The scatter dose is a major problem. I don't need to conduct any surveys or studys to see that.

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    "with a hard and fast figure on exposure yet."

    .... which is a kind lie, not divulging the truth, a lie of omission.

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    So is this really about the radiation boogeyman
    Tell your boogeyman stories to this child.
    Last edited by mouse; 11-16-2011 at 07:08 PM.

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    "with a hard and fast figure on exposure yet."

    .... which is a kind lie, not divulging the truth, a lie of omission.
    I don't know that they're obligated to issue specific figures to the public. I'd like to think that they are, but there are stranger rules in place.

    I'm not trying to defend the TSA, I'm just not convinced that these arguments aren't intimately linked.

    [QUOTE=mouse;5473710]

    So is this really about the radiation boogeyman[/QUOTE

    Tell your boogeyman stories to this child.
    Sure thing. I'd also include a little side story about how the Russian governments secrecy played an infinitely larger role in determining her fate than any airport backscatter scanner ever could.

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    I'm sure that Agloco would be hesitant to admit that Chernobyl ever had any negative effects on the local population.

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    That little mutant girl is made of straw.

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    Due to the heavy traffic at the airport I may have to lay off the iPhone but I will return to educate this lifeless Agloco on the effects of Radiation.

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    I don't think 50-year-old homeless security guards should be educating anybody.

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    Robin Kane, the TSA’s assistant administrator for security technology, said that no one would get cancer because the amount of radiation the X-ray scanners emit is minute. Having both technologies is important to create compe ion, he added.

    “It’s a really, really small amount relative to the security benefit you’re going to get,” Kane said. “Keeping multiple technologies in play is very worthwhile for the U.S. in getting that cost-effective solution — and being able to increase the capabilities of technology because you keep everyone trying to get the better mousetrap.”


    Just wow... it's not even about safety... "as long as we can cut costs, health be damned"

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    You would hope this will end with a massive class action lawsuit... because I don't see it ending any other way.

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    TSA is a huge crime against the American people in general..Alex Jones was reporting about this long before anyone wanted to admit it, just like nobody believed him when he said they were sticking their hands down our pants and now it's common knowledge.

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    Alex Jones doesn't get much run here. I expect most folks have already had enough passive exposure.

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    Due to the heavy traffic at the airport I may have to lay off the iPhone but I will return to educate this lifeless Agloco on the effects of Radiation.
    Be sure to step through the backscater scanner a few hundred times.

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    Because of a regulatory Catch-22, the airport X-ray scanners have escaped the oversight required for X-ray machines used in doctors’ offices and hospitals. The reason is that the scanners do not have a medical purpose, so the FDA cannot subject them to the rigorous evaluation it applies to medical devices.

    Ahhh yes, I have my answer. Amazing......amazingly idiotic.

    smh.

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    I don't think 50-year-old homeless security guards should be educating anybody.
    I am a Security "Officer" so it doesn't apply to me.


    If ^ this wannabee koriwhat is going to be in here unsupervised and treat this topic like a MC Donald's color balled paly center then consider the topics ruined.


    Unless he wants to meet me in the TRoll forum for a real smack off and see what dis has.

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    Be sure to step through the backscater scanner a few hundred times.
    Are you wishing Cancer on someone?


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    Your dumbass still pretending that you want to have a serious conversation.

    As soon as somebody starts making you look like an idiot, you make unfunny jokes then disappear.

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    Court Demands TSA Explain Why It Is Defying Nude Body Scanner Order


    A federal appeals court Wednesday ordered the Transportation Security Administration to explain why it hasn’t complied with the court’s year-old decision demanding the agency hold public hearings concerning the rules and regulations pertaining to the so-called nude body scanners installed in U.S. airport security checkpoints.


    The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit’s brief order came in response to the third request by the Electronic Privacy Information Center for the court to enforce its order.


    A year ago, the circuit court, in a lawsuit brought by EPIC, set aside a cons utional challenge trying to stop the government from using intrusive body scanners across U.S. airports. But the decision on July 15, 2011 also ordered TSA “to act promptly” and hold public hearings and publicly adopt rules and regulations about the scanners’ use, which it has not done.


    The public comments and the agency’s answers to them are reviewable by a court — which opens up a new avenue for a legal challenge to the 2009 agency decision to deploy the scanners. Critics maintain the scanners, which use radiation to peer through clothes, are threats to Americans’ privacy and health, which the TSA denies.


    The three-judge appellate court, which is one stop from the Supreme Court, said that the Transportation Security Administration breached federal law in 2009 when it formally adopted the Advanced Imaging Technology scanners as the “primary” method of screening. The judges — while allowing the scanners to be used — said the TSA violated the Administrative Procedures Act for failing to have a 90-day public comment period, and ordered the agency to undertake one.


    The appellate court has twice denied motions from EPIC to order the TSA to get going.


    But on Wednesday, the three-judge circuit court panel ordered (.pdf) the TSA to respond by August 30. Last month, TSA spokeswoman Lorie Dankers told Wired that hearings — and the agency’s response to those hearings — aren’t expected until “next year.”
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...scanner-order/

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    When Savannah Berry went through Salt Lake City International Airport, she told Transportation Security Administration screeners that she was a Type 1 diabetic and wears an insulin pump. She showed them a doctor's note saying the pump should not go through a body scanner and told them that she is usually patted down by airport security. They sent here through the scanner anyway and the pump broke.
    http://reason.com/blog/2012/08/14/brickbat-broken-pump

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    TSA is a huge crime against the American people in general..Alex Jones was reporting about this long before anyone wanted to admit it, just like nobody believed him when he said they were sticking their hands down our pants and now it's common knowledge.
    They damn sure stuck their hands down MY pants in San Antonio. The guys says "now I'm going to stick my hand inside of your shorts, but I'm only going to use the BACK of my hand..."

    Like...big ing deal...why is your hand INSIDE my pants to start with?

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