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    I would gladly welcome Ariza and Okafor.

    But wont the NBA look hypocritical for trading with anyone right now?
    Since when has the NBA cared about looking hypocritical?

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    Rj carried himself very professionally...no crying to Stephen A....


    "Manu? Oooo yeah thanks"

    Compared to whats now available SF wise...RJ is kinda heads and shoulders above the rest. He knows more about the system than any newbie would. All we can do now is cross our fingers and see what happens.

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    Let me remind you who were talking about

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TVjCOlqgU

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    Lest it be forgotten, please be reminded that RJ was also responsible for one of the best dunks of last season when he rode David Lee like a donkey. Now what other Spur could you see pulling that one? See below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTQa5dALtU

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    I realy liked RJ interview.
    Said all the right things anyone coiuld have said in a most complicated situation...looks hat he has a good personality.
    Frankly, I don't know what is best, if him or a Butler coming from a season ending injury...(that looked like our first option on the market).
    Imho the truth is that one of the roles we needed most to fill last year (long sf and defensive big) has already been filled with KL.
    The new spot in need to be filled (back up pg because of the Hill trade) could probably have been filled better (joseph too young and inexperienced, TJ too injury prone and coming from his worst year) but only time willl tell if the "gamble" will pay dividends (and, however, that role can be still filled with Manu, Neal...with Anderson taking more minutes at the shooting guard position).

    The point ius that the main role of need (athletic big with defense, shot blocking and rebounding...and possibly a good outside shot) has still to be filled...and that has been our main need last season and, probably, the main reason of our play off failure.
    And the gap risk to be larger and larger with the possible Dice retirement (a Dice in his twentyes would have been the perfect player for whay we need)...and maybe Dice himself risk to be still the best solution to fiill that role.

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    Who can blaim the Front Office for resigning RJ last year. This off-season much more quality free agents at SF were available and the Spurs were not able to attract anyone of them. The same goes for a big man.

    If a trade is not an option I think its the best move to keep RJ around. I want Leonard to play good minutes, but I have not enough faith in Butler or Green.

    Signing TJ Ford was ok, but I still hope we get a little surprise addition within the next week ...

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    Lest it be forgotten, please be reminded that RJ was also responsible for one of the best dunks of last season when he rode David Lee like a donkey. Now what other Spur could you see pulling that one? See below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTQa5dALtU
    That could have happened more often if TP was a better passer. It gets the team and the crowd pumped up and helps keep RJ more focused on defense.

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    Well then maybe we should ship Tony out for a old school point guard

    Nash comes to mind.

    Nash would help RJ get back in form with alley oops and free lines to the bucket and even get Duncan hoppin again and giving him the ball in positions to score. Nash and Duncan? 2 x 2 time MVP's on the same team. That'd be Legendary.

    With this trade you solve the issue of RJ being a piece of .

    F/A Centre + Splitter
    Duncan
    Jeferson
    Ginobili
    Nash

    Net any available centre and we're in business. RJ played his best ball alongside Jason Kidd. Swap tony for an old school pass first point guard and RJ may not be a waste of space for us again

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    if all else fails and we cant get dead jefferson out of san antonio we should do this.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=87yx85j

    Which would leave us with

    Gortat
    Duncan
    Jefferson
    Ginobili
    Nash

    Nash is the best playmaker in the NBA, He'd make life so much easier for Manu, RJ, Tim, Gortat, freakin everyone.

    Gortat gives us a big mean presence at Centre finally, with size, toughness and at ude. And RJ should wind the clock back a few years with Nash sending him the rock constantly in positions to score. Nash is still he best passer in the association and can shoot like you cant believe. Nash will even make Duncan's life considerably easier having a pure PG for once and Duncan will be helped immensely by Gortat having a big mean strong fearless dude fortyfying the paint with him.

    Pull the trigger RC!
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    I can live with RJ on the team as Leonard can fill in when RJ gets in one of his moods if we can find away to get rid of Pop's addiction for Bonner either through trade, injury or pine time.

    There is no hope as long as Pop still finds minutes for Bonner and Blair to be on the floor at the same time.

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    Make some en moves front office! you're falling well behind the 8 ball

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    Jefferson stays, Mcdyess retires and we bring Oberto back for the min. That's our offseason guys. The best name we got in the offseason is TJ Ford

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    Jefferson stays, Mcdyess retires and we bring Oberto back for the min. That's our offseason guys. The best name we got in the offseason is TJ Ford
    It is still early but the same thing happened last year as the options dried up as other teams were more agressive in making things happen.

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    if all else fails and we cant get dead jefferson out of san antonio we should do this.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=87yx85j

    Which would leave us with

    Gortat
    Duncan
    Jefferson
    Ginobili
    Nash

    Nash is the best playmaker in the NBA, He'd make life so much easier for Manu, RJ, Tim, Gortat, freakin everyone.

    Gortat gives us a big mean presence at Centre finally, with size, toughness and at ude. And RJ should wind the clock back a few years with Nash sending him the rock constantly in positions to score. Nash is still he best passer in the association and can shoot like you cant believe. Nash will even make Duncan's life considerably easier having a pure PG for once and Duncan will be helped immensely by Gortat having a big mean strong fearless dude fortyfying the paint with him.

    Pull the trigger RC!
    Never will happen. Parker will stay in San Antonio as long as Pop is here. I have always said that. Moving Parker is not the best move anyways.

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    Well then maybe we should ship Tony out for a old school point guard

    Nash comes to mind.

    Nash would help RJ get back in form with alley oops and free lines to the bucket and even get Duncan hoppin again and giving him the ball in positions to score. Nash and Duncan? 2 x 2 time MVP's on the same team. That'd be Legendary.

    With this trade you solve the issue of RJ being a piece of .

    F/A Centre + Splitter
    Duncan
    Jeferson
    Ginobili
    Nash

    Net any available centre and we're in business. RJ played his best ball alongside Jason Kidd. Swap tony for an old school pass first point guard and RJ may not be a waste of space for us again
    You make a good point. How good would the Spurs have been if they had a pass first point guard like Kidd. Maybe they win 6 les? As good as Duncan has been he has had to work for most of his stuff. If he was getting lots of easy baskets from his point guard it would help him be even better and increase his longevity.

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    It is still early but the same thing happened last year as the options dried up as other teams were more agressive in making things happen.
    The results of being in a small market with small market-thinking owners. Had we not "lucked" out with DRob and TDuncan, this team would have been sold and moved 10+ years ago. Had we the same FO, but with a big time owner willing to spend $$, we would have had better role players in the 90's and beyond so that there would be no question of a dynasty with more les than the Bulls(hit) of Chicago. Heck, we were so close to the Flakers and Boston that we could have won les in the 80's had Iceman been surrounded by better role players.

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    You make a good point. How good would the Spurs have been if they had a pass first point guard like Kidd. Maybe they win 6 les? As good as Duncan has been he has had to work for most of his stuff. If he was getting lots of easy baskets from his point guard it would help him be even better and increase his longevity.

    We won enough..we were the team we were. To keep Tony was the right decision.

    But you have a point.TD could score better with a different kind of PG. Surely he could score 20ppg easily today if he only has to catch and shoot

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    Surely he could score 20ppg easily today if he only has to catch and shoot
    I don't buy that. E.g. Rondo is a distributing PG, but no way Garnett could average 20PPG - although he is a better jump shooter than TD. I think SGs and Wing players benefit much more from a distributing point guard than the man in the middle. Pick&Roll is another thing, but TP and TD already execute that ...

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    The results of being in a small market with small market-thinking owners. Had we not "lucked" out with DRob and TDuncan, this team would have been sold and moved 10+ years ago. Had we the same FO, but with a big time owner willing to spend $$, we would have had better role players in the 90's and beyond so that there would be no question of a dynasty with more les than the Bulls(hit) of Chicago. Heck, we were so close to the Flakers and Boston that we could have won les in the 80's had Iceman been surrounded by better role players.
    Agree. It was frustrating seeing the Spurs come so close for years in the
    1980s then again in the early 2000s(2000-2002 the Laker 3 peat) because the spurs were too gun shy(Sprewell) to add that one missing piece.

    I doubt the Spurs fan base will support a loser for long after Duncan retires.
    It would not be a surprise to see the team move to St. Louis in the future.

    The St. Louis Spurs get used to it, it is the future.

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    Thinking about it some more, the Spurs need to hurry up and amnesty RJ. If they wait, teams with salary cap room will spend elsewhere. A big reason why waiving RJ this offseason is the increased chance a team will claim a decently large percentage of his contract.

    Wait too much longer and there won't be many teams able to claim him even if they wanted to.

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    Thinking about it some more, the Spurs need to hurry up and amnesty RJ. If they wait, teams with salary cap room will spend elsewhere. A big reason why waiving RJ this offseason is the increased chance a team will claim a decently large percentage of his contract.

    Wait too much longer and there won't be many teams able to claim him even if they wanted to.
    Exactly my thought. If they don't do it soon, they won't be able to. With the new lux tax rules looming next season, I don't foresee many teams spending much.

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    Thinking about it some more, the Spurs need to hurry up and amnesty RJ. If they wait, teams with salary cap room will spend elsewhere. A big reason why waiving RJ this offseason is the increased chance a team will claim a decently large percentage of his contract.

    Wait too much longer and there won't be many teams able to claim him even if they wanted to.
    Sorry man, I think we're stuck with another year of .

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    What the is going on with Dice. This whole thing is pissing me off. Do something Spurs.

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    Thinking about it some more, the Spurs need to hurry up and amnesty RJ. If they wait, teams with salary cap room will spend elsewhere. A big reason why waiving RJ this offseason is the increased chance a team will claim a decently large percentage of his contract.

    Wait too much longer and there won't be many teams able to claim him even if they wanted to.
    I'm not so sure; if there's any reasonable trade scenario out there, the Spurs have to try that first. The few million they'd save by a cap room team picking up part of RJ's contract pales to potentially getting full value (i.e. not having to pay a player not to play for you).

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