Richard Jefferson is at Spurs Practice Right Now

[baseline bum]

The results of being in a small market with small market-thinking owners. Had we not "lucked" out with DRob and TDuncan, this team would have been sold and moved 10+ years ago. Had we the same FO, but with a big time owner willing to spend $$, we would have had better role players in the 90's and beyond so that there would be no question of a dynasty with more les than the Bulls(hit) of Chicago. Heck, we were so close to the Flakers and Boston that we could have won les in the 80's had Iceman been surrounded by better role players.

You can't even compare the ownership in the 80s vs the 90s. Drossos went out and got the team Mitc and Gilmore while McCombs let Strickland walk and was close to salary dumping DRob (according to Red himself). Yeah, the Scola salary dump was awful, but Holt has overall been a great owner for the team. He really stepped to the plate with the Parker extension and the Jefferson trade not to mention paying luxury tax to sign Finley and trade for Kurt Thomas. I wish the Spurs had Holt owning the team in the early 90s; we would have never seen the disaster of Vinny Del Negro and might have seen the team ring in DRob's prime.

[ElNono]

You can't even compare the ownership in the 80s vs the 90s. Drossos went out and got the team Mitc and Gilmore while McCombs let Strickland walk and was close to salary dumping DRob (according to Red himself). Yeah, the Scola salary dump was awful, but Holt has overall been a great owner for the team. He really stepped to the plate with the Parker extension and the Jefferson trade not to mention paying luxury tax to sign Finley and trade for Kurt Thomas. I wish the Spurs had Holt owning the team in the early 90s; we would have never seen the disaster of Vinny Del Negro and might have seen the team ring in DRob's prime.

If Holt would've been THAT horrible, he couldn't have retained TD either. I don't agree with some of the moves this FO has done throughout the years, but they should also get credit for what they did right too.

[bigdog]

What the is going on with Dice. This whole thing is pissing me off. Do something Spurs.

From Pop's interview, it sounds like the Spurs have something up their sleeve as far as handling Dice's contract. I'm certain it will be a trade.

[rascal]

You can't even compare the ownership in the 80s vs the 90s. Drossos went out and got the team Mitc and Gilmore while McCombs let Strickland walk and was close to salary dumping DRob (according to Red himself). Yeah, the Scola salary dump was awful, but Holt has overall been a great owner for the team. He really stepped to the plate with the Parker extension and the Jefferson trade not to mention paying luxury tax to sign Finley and trade for Kurt Thomas. I wish the Spurs had Holt owning the team in the early 90s; we would have never seen the disaster of Vinny Del Negro and might have seen the team ring in DRob's prime.

Finley and Thomas were not such great moves. Over the hill vets.

[DesignatedT]

Finley was a great move. Integral part of the 06 and 07 teams. Would have gone b2b without Manu's foul on Dirk.

Saying that, Finley was kept around 2 years too long

[Mr. Body]

Finley was a great move. Pop just played him perhaps too long.

[baseline bum]

Finley and Thomas were not such great moves. Over the hill vets.

Finley was a great pickup for the team and Thomas was the best big available at the trade deadline for what the Spurs could offer (namely, Barry's expiring).

[rascal]

Finley was a great move. Integral part of the 06 and 07 teams. Would have gone b2b without Manu's foul on Dirk.

Saying that, Finley was kept around 2 years too long

No he wasn't. They won despite him. He shot .412 from the floor with 8 pts/gm in 2006/2007.

[rascal]

Finley was a great pickup for the team and Thomas was the best big available at the trade deadline for what the Spurs could offer (namely, Barry's expiring).

The best big man(Thomas) was not good enough. That is the Spurs mo, that is all they can get, it is the best they can do, some over the hill vet who just is not good enough.

[rascal]

Name one player the spurs have gotten through trade or free agency over the last 10 years that went on to make an all star team.

[ChumpDumper]

rascal, why do you watch the NBA?

Serious question.

[benefactor]

Name one player the spurs have gotten through trade or free agency over the last 10 years that went on to make an all star team.

lol popularity contests

[ChumpDumper]

rascal, how many All-Star level players need to be on one team in any given year?

Serious question.

[baseline bum]

The best big man(Thomas) was not good enough. That is the Spurs mo, that is all they can get, it is the best they can do, some over the hill vet who just is not good enough.

That team would have made the Finals if it wasn't for Ginobili getting hurt.

[baseline bum]

rascal, why are you ing about the Spurs? When they were winning les all you did was complain that they didn't run and weren't fun to watch. Now that they run you about how they can't win les. I mean, pick a ing side other than butthurt.

[rascal]

rascal, why are you ing about the Spurs? When they were winning les all you did was complain that they didn't run and weren't fun to watch. Now that they run you about how they can't win les. I mean, pick a ing side other than butthurt.

They don't run now. Under pop they have never been an open court fast paced offense.

You must not have remembered the early Gervin Spur teams.
Those were the most exciting teams the franchise ever had.

[rascal]

That team would have made the Finals if it wasn't for Ginobili getting hurt.

Every year it was another excuse for falling short. The manu foul, the Fisher shot, Manu injury. The fans especially on this board could not accept that the Spurs were just not good enough in those years so the yearly built in excuse was believed.

[ElNono]

Every year it was another excuse for falling short. The manu foul, the Fisher shot, Manu injury. The fans especially on this board could not accept that the Spurs were just not good enough in those years so the yearly built in excuse was believed.

29 out of 30 teams have excuses every year...

[ChumpDumper]

Has anyone ever seen a positive post by rascal regarding the Spurs?

I'd like a link to one if possible.

[ElNono]

Has anyone ever seen a positive post by rascal regarding the Spurs?

I'd like a link to one if possible.

He'll stop ing once the Spurs move to St Louis... or so he claims...

[portnoy1]

rascal, why are you ing about the Spurs? When they were winning les all you did was complain that they didn't run and weren't fun to watch. Now that they run you about how they can't win les. I mean, pick a ing side other than butthurt.

Some fans are like that. Personally I loved it when the Spurs beat teams 80 to 75. They would block shots and have TWO GUYS GET 10 RBS EACH, and HIT TIMELY 3PTRS. As opposed to Matty B getting mins and not giving rbs, and the spurs jacking up 25-30 3's a night.

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Josh Howard a fine player, but is he worth paying RJ to go away for? Spurs have to be asking themselves same question.

[therealtruth]

The front office's MO has been to get a declining vet and then Pop overplays them till they can't defend traffic cones. He did that with Finely and Dice. Dice in training camp last year was basically saying Splitter should start.

[quentin_compson]

Both Finley and Thomas were good moves at the time. But I guess some people will be in shock when we won't be acquiring Dwight Howard in the next couple of days.

[ElNono]

I still think they're gonna amnesty him... that piece in the Express News keeps coming to my mind... the FO doesn't throw that out there lightly...