Pop

[SA210]

So many people saw Splitter's potential last year. Pop put a lid on it.
Ditto for this year.
What kind of a coach does this?

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Sometimes your hate for Pop really clouds your common sense imo. With Ginoboli, and Ford's injuries, Parker is the only playmaker left, so of course his minutes are going to go up. Neal has proven, in a very short amount of time, that he can't run the offense, much less break down a defense, and given Joseph's status as a raw, 3rd string pg, I not suprised by his erratic minutes, and lack of contributions so far. I hope that Parker doesn't break down with his playing too many minutes, but right now, hes the only playmaking option.

Tiago Splitter says hi. And Tim Duncan says hi from behind the bench in a suit. If you've got injuries, why are you resting players when you won't give minutes to their backups? Wouldn't it make sense to play Duncan 10 more minutes and Parker 10 less minutes so you can get Joseph up to speed as well?

It's not hate for Pop, it's hate for stupid strategies that make no ing sense. The Spurs are going to be sacrificing players to win games starting about now because of these re ed decisions, and then they're going to end up in the bottom half of the playoffs with a banged up, tired team and several young guys that never see the floor. Guess how that turns out.

[TDMVPDPOY]

pop can go eat a

thats 4 games kings, rockets, heat, bucks << those 4 games were all supposed to be winnable the way we played but he fcked up with the rotations

[jjktkk]

Tiago Splitter says hi. And Tim Duncan says hi from behind the bench in a suit. If you've got injuries, why are you resting players when you won't give minutes to their backups? Wouldn't it make sense to play Duncan 10 more minutes and Parker 10 less minutes so you can get Joseph up to speed as well?

It's not hate for Pop, it's hate for stupid strategies that make no ing sense. The Spurs are going to be sacrificing players to win games starting about now because of these re ed decisions, and then they're going to end up in the bottom half of the playoffs with a banged up, tired team and several young guys that never see the floor. Guess how that turns out.

You misunderstood my reference to a playmaker, my fault. I meant a playmaking "guard", who has the ability to beat his man off the dribble, break down the defense, etc... Currently, Parker is the only one who has the ability to break down defenses.

[ElNono]

You misunderstood my reference to a playmaker, my fault. I meant a playmaking "guard", who has the ability to beat his man off the dribble, break down the defense, etc... Currently, Parker is the only one who has the ability to break down defenses.

I would add that RJ should be another guy from the perimeter that has that ability (penetrate, get to the basket, break down the defense), if he wouldn't have mailed it in a dozen games into the season.

It's actually depressing how pretty much everybody already got used to RJ the one dimensional shooter.

[jjktkk]

I would add that RJ should be another guy from the perimeter that has that ability (penetrate, get to the basket, break down the defense), if he wouldn't have mailed it in a dozen games into the season.

It's actually depressing how pretty much everybody already got used to RJ the one dimensional shooter.

Its actually the weirdest I've seen out of a player in awhile. Its like RJ lost all of his athleticism and be became old, once he signed here. No gradual decline, just instantly a tosb, with no compe ive fire, nothing.

[therealtruth]

Its actually the weirdest I've seen out of a player in awhile. Its like RJ lost all of his athleticism and be became old, once he signed here. No gradual decline, just instantly a tosb, with no compe ive fire, nothing.

The trade never made sense. The Spurs should have been trading for a big. Then we wouldn't have the Blair/Bonner madness. Any number of guys could have filled the sf spot to provide defense and 3pt shooting.

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You misunderstood my reference to a playmaker, my fault. I meant a playmaking "guard", who has the ability to beat his man off the dribble, break down the defense, etc... Currently, Parker is the only one who has the ability to break down defenses.

Ah, I understand, and yes, that's very true. In my opinion, when you have Manu Ginobili out, you have to find some way not to beat the crap out of Parker for too many minutes. We know Joseph isn't ready to run the offense but he can hold his own on defense and learn as he goes if you have some way to generate offense. Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter are great playmakers in that kind of situation, and the two of them together can keep the other team from scoring in the paint with any kind of ease. There should be enough shooters to mix some 4 down in there and play some inside-out ball. Doesn't have to be the whole game, but enough to give Parker some rest and let Joseph get some floor time.

[jjktkk]

Ah, I understand, and yes, that's very true. In my opinion, when you have Manu Ginobili out, you have to find some way not to beat the crap out of Parker for too many minutes. We know Joseph isn't ready to run the offense but he can hold his own on defense and learn as he goes if you have some way to generate offense. Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter are great playmakers in that kind of situation, and the two of them together can keep the other team from scoring in the paint with any kind of ease. There should be enough shooters to mix some 4 down in there and play some inside-out ball. Doesn't have to be the whole game, but enough to give Parker some rest and let Joseph get some floor time.

The problem with Joseph getting extensive pt, if defenses won't play him for jumper, or lack there of, but I agree he needs to be out there, or someone so Pop won't wear Parker out.

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The problem with Joseph getting extensive pt, if defenses won't play him for jumper, or lack there of, but I agree he needs to be out there, or someone so Pop won't wear Parker out.

That could be an issue going forward. I'm certainly not saying that he's definitely an NBA player, but we kind of need to find out, and even if some people think we don't, the truth is he's all there is at the moment.

As for how defenses play him, there's probably not enough tape for people to try to exploit anything he does or doesn't do yet. Just watching him move around, he doesn't look lost and he isn't playing scared, which is an encouraging sign despite the terrible plus minus numbers that are associated with him. I'm happy to re-evaluate him once people key on him or trap him or force him one way, but right now he's just a placeholder on the second team while Parker gets some rest.

It's a bit of hyperbole, but I'd pretty much be okay if the Spurs just ran the clock down every possession while Parker's on the bench to maximize the amount of rest he gets since a rested healthy Parker is so important to the team. You pretty much need to have three point guards or just hope your main two are healthy once the playoffs roll around. PT for Joseph works toward either of those goals.

[dunkman]

While I think Pop made some mistakes, I doubt we can find another coach that will do a better job with the available talent. The big three is a big one and a half, since Manu and TJ are out RJ and Blair suck, Splitter is progressing, Leonard and Green are nice pickups. Neal is returning from a surgery. It's complicated.

I hope to see the roster complete and how it performs in playoffs. This roster looks very complete. The Spurs are going to reach the finals IMO. We have wing defenders, capable rebounders, defense in the middle, great shooters, a backup PG.

[SpursRock20]

Hey glad to finally join this active Spurs fan forum!

In my opinion, Pop kinda has his hands tied behind his back with RJ and Blair. I think he feels that if he benches them, he will lose what little value they bring to the table. I feel that they are not mentally strong players, and will not be able to play an important role off of the bench.

That still does not explain why Bonner gets as much bench minutes as Tiago, however. Can't really jump the gun yet, though. Tiago just played a of a game and has had a day to rest. Let's see if he increases his minutes tomorrow night, and if he doesn't, then we can really jump his ass .

GO SPURS GO!

[therealtruth]

While I think Pop made some mistakes, I doubt we can find another coach that will do a better job with the available talent. The big three is a big one and a half, since Manu and TJ are out RJ and Blair suck, Splitter is progressing, Leonard and Green are nice pickups. Neal is returning from a surgery. It's complicated.

I hope to see the roster complete and how it performs in playoffs. This roster looks very complete. The Spurs are going to reach the finals IMO. We have wing defenders, capable rebounders, defense in the middle, great shooters, a backup PG.

Not unless Pop starts coaching better.

[SequSpur]

Hey glad to finally join this active Spurs fan forum!

In my opinion, Pop kinda has his hands tied behind his back with RJ and Blair. I think he feels that if he benches them, he will lose what little value they bring to the table. I feel that they are not mentally strong players, and will not be able to play an important role off of the bench.

That still does not explain why Bonner gets as much bench minutes as Tiago, however. Can't really jump the gun yet, though. Tiago just played a of a game and has had a day to rest. Let's see if he increases his minutes tomorrow night, and if he doesn't, then we can really jump his ass .

GO SPURS GO!

RJ and Blair would start on almost every team in the NBA that's why. They are good professional ball players.

Bonner and Tiago don't play the same position. One is a 7 footer that shoots like a grandma, the other is 6 10 and plays like a wnba shooting guard...wtf?

[SpursRock20]

RJ and Blair would start on almost every team in the NBA that's why. They are good professional ball players.

Bonner and Tiago don't play the same position. One is a 7 footer that shoots like a grandma, the other is 6 10 and plays like a wnba shooting guard...wtf?

I honestly don't see Blair starting on most NBA teams. A solid bench player but that's about it.

[SequSpur]

I honestly don't see Blair starting on most NBA teams. A solid bench player but that's about it.

Did you watch him play in college? do you watch him play now? Did you watch him play in the two allstar events? He was the best player out there... i think you're wrong.

[Sean Cagney]

Hey glad to finally join this active Spurs fan forum!

In my opinion, Pop kinda has his hands tied behind his back with RJ and Blair. I think he feels that if he benches them, he will lose what little value they bring to the table. I feel that they are not mentally strong players, and will not be able to play an important role off of the bench.

That still does not explain why Bonner gets as much bench minutes as Tiago, however. Can't really jump the gun yet, though. Tiago just played a of a game and has had a day to rest. Let's see if he increases his minutes tomorrow night, and if he doesn't, then we can really jump his ass .

GO SPURS GO!

Ehhhh no, they had chances to get rid of both, he did not want them gone! Hands tied? NO, he is just is a sucker for both and it still baffles most of us fans! He has no hands tied, this is his idiocy alone while we still have them and play them alot.. He has had years to see this, yet he doesn't...... BTW they bring no value to the table and have not for years IMO. They start out hot, then fade fast.

[TJastal]

Uh? They both had the same amount of rebounds. Sure, Blair played half the minutes, but that's entirely his fault. He got 3 shots blocked and because he's DUMB, he ended up getting in foul trouble with ticky tacky fouls.

Plus if you actually watched the game, Matty surprisingly put a decent outing defensively and actually scored the ball well despite the poor shooting percentage.... Awful doesn't even begin to describe DeJuan today.

It was just a game. I suspect the odds of Matt being passable on defense in the foreseeable future are fairly low.

Blair is defenitely regressing at an alarming rate. Bonner at least keeping the status quo (by his standards). He still needs his minutes halved, though.