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    i think tim doesnt know who is the superior player is.....
    It's officially time for you to change your ing handle because it makes you look even more like a moron than your posts do.

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    Really encouraging analysis on Splitter.

    I can't see why anyone wants Kaman when Splitter is playing well.

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    This makes for an interesting situation when Ginobili returns. Pairing Parker with Duncan in the starting line up and Ginobili with Splitter as the main second tier could possibly allow the Spurs to increase their current offense efficiency. Then the use of Leonard as a starter and Green with the second tier should help decrease opponents offensive efficiency making up a solid in and out player rotation. Then end of game situations of Parker, Manu, Splitter, Duncan and either Green or Leonard creating an almost impenetrable defense that can close out games with offensive explosion.

    If all stay healthy, by the end of the season, Spurs could be winning games by close to double digit margins.

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    This makes for an interesting situation when Ginobili returns. Pairing Parker with Duncan in the starting line up and Ginobili with Splitter as the main second tier could possibly allow the Spurs to increase their current offense efficiency. Then the use of Leonard as a starter and Green with the second tier should help decrease opponents offensive efficiency making up a solid in and out player rotation. Then end of game situations of Parker, Manu, Splitter, Duncan and either Green or Leonard creating an almost impenetrable defense that can close out games with offensive explosion.

    If all stay healthy, by the end of the season, Spurs could be winning games by close to double digit margins.

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    Tiago has been spectacular at both ends, we all knew that and the stats bear that out. Im a huge fan of using advanced metrics but there reaches a point where you need to step back, use logic and simply play your most impactful players the majority of minutes. I'm all for limiting minutes some, especially with regards to Tim & Manu if you can do so and still win; which the Spurs have done. What I am against is not planning for what line ups give you the best shot to win a le. This is about using what knowledge you have, being realistic & not being stubborn.

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    I've seen/watched Tiago play for more than 10 years and... He just couldn't play more than 25-27mpg with two games a week here in Spain/Europe, because he's a bit of a China doll. Translate that into a 4-games-a-week schedule.

    Pop is aware of the importance of Splitter right now, because he's playing at such a high level... And because an injury of one single big man would be fatal.

    If only Pop had pulled him to play with Duncan last year... Now they might have developed a chemistry... Damn.

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    Definitely can understand your frustration with the all offense players starting at the same time. Whats encouraging imo, is, unlike last year, Pop has some defensive pieces to work with in this year in Splitter, Leonard, and, to a lesser extent, Green.
    I'd love to see a mix of what we hope are the best players starting. At some point you have to think Parker, Manu, Leonard, Duncan and Splitter are your starters.

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    In other words...

    Splitter is the player he has always been and he is now doing this IN SPITE of head coach's stupidity....

    In other words....a few of us here have been saying this since last year...but Pop is a genius...uh-huh....

    In other words...coach Pop CIA, BLAH- IN'-BLAH.....popsuckers don't want to hear that Splitter could have helped last year....

    His hook shot was ugly, he is injury prone, he is weak, he is.....

    Pop knows best, Pop is saving him, Bonner is not that bad, Bonner spreads the floor, Pop will save Splitter for the playoffs....


    In other words...Pop needs to go...

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    Tiago has been spectacular at both ends, we all knew that and the stats bear that out. Im a huge fan of using advanced metrics but there reaches a point where you need to step back, use logic and simply play your most impactful players the majority of minutes. I'm all for limiting minutes some, especially with regards to Tim & Manu if you can do so and still win; which the Spurs have done. What I am against is not planning for what line ups give you the best shot to win a le. This is about using what knowledge you have, being realistic & not being stubborn.
    Shouldn't this statement be saved pending on this season's outcome? Pop and his staff are expiermenting with lineups, finding out what and what doesn't work, which is planning for what lineups work going forward is it not?

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    Shouldn't this statement be saved pending on this season's outcome? Pop and his staff are expiermenting with lineups, finding out what and what doesn't work, which is planning for what lineups work going forward is it not?
    We have all of last year where Pop didn't play Tiago/Tim and we are 26 games into a short season and much the same with limited Tiago/Tim.

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    Shouldn't this statement be saved pending on this season's outcome? Pop and his staff are expiermenting with lineups, finding out what and what doesn't work, which is planning for what lineups work going forward is it not?
    you mean....like last year....

    the team is winning...Pop has 4 rings....Pop is bringing him along slowly....Spurs have the best offense...Spurs are this....

    Wait til the playoffs..his minutes will increase....

    My name is Sctikkkk and my name is dumpster....

    we like watching the same movies over and over but we always expect a different ending....somehow...the movies always end the exact same way every single time....

    but NEXT season...we will really hold Pop accountable....

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    What we know doesn't work: Blair as a starter as evidenced by him being benched just before the playoffs. Bonner in the playoffs yet he still gets solid time.

    Pop has done the "ooops, too late" move before numerous times.

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    I'd love to see a mix of what we hope are the best players starting. At some point you have to think Parker, Manu, Leonard, Duncan and Splitter are your starters.
    I love your starting lineup. But judging from the regular season so far, it doesn't seem that Splitter will be starting. I also don't see RJ getting benched. IMO, the rest of the regular season and into the playoffs, Manu will be the only change coming to the starting lineup. But I also see Blair and RJ getting a quck hook if there not producing.

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    We have all of last year where Pop didn't play Tiago/Tim and we are 26 games into a short season and much the same with limited Tiago/Tim.
    IMO, quite a difference in Tiago playing this year than last year.

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    you mean....like last year....

    the team is winning...Pop has 4 rings....Pop is bringing him along slowly....Spurs have the best offense...Spurs are this....

    Wait til the playoffs..his minutes will increase....

    My name is Sctikkkk and my name is dumpster....

    we like watching the same movies over and over but we always expect a different ending....somehow...the movies always end the exact same way every single time....

    but NEXT season...we will really hold Pop accountable....
    Please let me know if I'm using too many big words for you. Do you actually think Tiago is not contributing this year?

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    IMO, quite a difference in Tiago playing this year than last year.
    My statement you quoted was about not giving your most talented lineup time together which is Tiago/Tim together. That's more of what I was referring to.

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    My statement you quoted was about not giving your most talented lineup time together which is Tiago/Tim together. That's more of what I was referring to.
    I like it too, and it would be the best lineup imo as well. My guess why it won't happen, is that Pop does not think he can get anything from Blair if he benches him. So far this season, we have seen small samples of Tim and Tiago closing out games. I'm thinking we will see that going forward into the playoffs. In some ways this is similar imo to Ginoboli starting versers playing the 6th man role in seasons past. Its not who starts, but who finishes. And FWIW if the same ole, same ole, happens in this year's playoffs regarding Pop making bad personnel/coaching decisions, I'll be more than happy to grill up the crow and break out my "pop's an idiot" t-shirt.

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    I just hope it doesn't get to that point, JJ. Due to cir stance there is a lot more on the line this than I imagined with regards to Spurs making a run. They aren't favorites but they have way more of a chance to reach the finals than I anticipated due to the west being so wide open.

    IMO, just like last year in the playoffs, you can't just throw Tiago/Tim out there on the fly. That lineup needs consistent and ample time to learn; time they still aren't getting a season later when it was obviously needed.

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    Really good write-up. The numbers not all that surprising considering how good it looks in game right now.

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    timvp I would really like to read this but again I'm gonna skip this. Damn I think I do not have time for such a big post ....
    Or damn maybe I'm lazy or I have not much motivation.

    Damn I'm not a good person Im not a total max spurs fan!

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    I just hope it doesn't get to that point, JJ. Due to cir stance there is a lot more on the line this than I imagined with regards to Spurs making a run. They aren't favorites but they have way more of a chance to reach the finals than I anticipated due to the west being so wide open.

    IMO, just like last year in the playoffs, you can't just throw Tiago/Tim out there on the fly. That lineup needs consistent and ample time to learn; time they still aren't getting a season later when it was obviously needed.
    Agree. I know the Tim/Tiago combo finishing games is slowly evolving, too slow for alot of people. I believe, come playoff time, that Splitter will play a major role, whether starting, or playing significant minutes.

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    Great write up, thanks! It's a great thing to see Tiago growing with such strides. With Manu out we sure needed that lift from somewhere..

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    That's all I care about JJ but I just don't see a way around Tiago/Tim in the playoffs barring a trade because Blair or Bonner won't cut it.

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    I've seen/watched Tiago play for more than 10 years and... He just couldn't play more than 25-27mpg with two games a week here in Spain/Europe, because he's a bit of a China doll. Translate that into a 4-games-a-week schedule.

    Pop is aware of the importance of Splitter right now, because he's playing at such a high level... And because an injury of one single big man would be fatal.

    If only Pop had pulled him to play with Duncan last year... Now they might have developed a chemistry... Damn.
    Fair post.

    Others won't pay attention though.

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    I love your starting lineup. But judging from the regular season so far, it doesn't seem that Splitter will be starting. I also don't see RJ getting benched. IMO, the rest of the regular season and into the playoffs, Manu will be the only change coming to the starting lineup. But I also see Blair and RJ getting a quck hook if there not producing.
    True on all points, but if everyone on the team made the same amount of money, my starting lineup is who everyone would agree on. At some point you've gotta let RJ earn however much of that ridiculous contract as he can with the time that he's given instead of starting him because he's making too much to bench him.

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