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Robinson
Dirk
Not sure about the rest.
Rank them twice, one list based on their spots on the all-time list, and the other list based on their peak performances..
David Robinson
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
Moses Malone
Patrick Ewing
Robinson
Dirk
Not sure about the rest.
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Only pussies and assholes rank robinson ahead of dirk
Moses Malone is first on both lists, IMO..
Moses is at the top agreed however David Robinson was a greater player than Dirk as he was a two way player and also a much more efficient player (see PER ranking below) - people discount how great DR as but wake me when Dirk has a quadruple double in a game. I would put Karl Malone 2nd, DR 3rd, Dirk 4th, Garnett 5th (in his prime a case can be made he should be 3-4th as also a of a defender), Barkley, Ewing .....
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_career.html
The Admiral has an outstanding performance with 34 points, 10 assists, 10 rebounds and 10 steals ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpT0QdUDIY
Thanks for the youtube. It's like nobody would've believed you if you didn't post it.
Haha
one would think with one of hte highest per's of all time, robinson would have been able to win prior to duncan getting there and holding his hand...oh wait maybe you're just an idiot and PER doesn't mean . call me when robinson actually leads a team to a ring.
Dirk and Moses are the only 2 to take a team to a ring. All the other guys are fighting for a distant 3rd.
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Cool post. I'm glad you're just here to talk basketball.
Moses at the top of both lists. Ewing at the bottom of both lists for me. You can take both those guys out and it's an extremely difficult to rank the rest. Here's how I would go, but it certainly is debatable and I could be convinced to re-arrange them.
All-time:
1. Moses
2. KG
3. Karl Malone
4. Dirk
5. Robinson
6. Barkley
7. Ewing
Peak:
1. Moses
2. Robinson
3. Barkley
4. Dirk
5. KG
6. Karl Malone
7. Ewing
On the all-time list, I'd probably rank David Robinson higher but it felt like his prime years were shorter than the others having begun his NBA career later than most and then having to deal with injuries at the tail end. Plus, there's always that perception of him not working on his post game enough and not being enough to carry a team all the way before Duncan. But had he had 11-12 great seasons as opposed to about 8-9, he'd likely be higher. Longevity comparison was my reasoning.
lol robinson above Dirk
Dirk has a higher playoff PER.
All-time:
1. Moses
2. KG
3. Dirk
4. Karl Malone
5. Barkley
6. Ewing
7. Len Bias
8. David Robinson
Peak:
1. Moses
2. KG
3. Barkley
4. Dirk
5. Karl Malone
6. Ewing
7. Reggie Lewis
8. David Robinson
Dirk has earned his ranking above the Admiral. Too many Spurs fans only focus on how great he was in the regular season and quickly forget just how underwhelming he was in the playoffs as the alpha. He doesn't have one, not one, memorable playoff series as the lead dog. I love the guy but those are the facts.
Ewing last on both lists imo
Foh, Foh, and Foh.
lol all the Mavs fans putting Dirk over DRob simply because he won a ring. Give Drob the supporting cast Dirk had last year and he wins it all.
Put Dirk out there with Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro, JR Reid, etc. and see how he fares vs Jordan's Bulls, Barkley's Suns, Hakeem & Drexler's Rockets. Similar, if not worse results IMO...
How can you say that when Dirk has proven he can take a playoff series over by himself and David can't?
Funny how Spurs fans like to come up with re ed phrases like "the ring's the thing!" and would always reference Garnett's one ring as a reason why Dirk wasnt on his level, and how being a #1 option on a le team is why Duncan's 4 is better than Kobe's 2.......
........until Dirk gets a ring and does it as a #1 and clearly establishes himself as a greater player than DRob BY THEIR OWN STANDARD, and then conveniently none of that matters anymore to them.
You can say David was the better player on paper, that Dirk had some shooters get hot, and so on, but that: Nowitzki led a reasonably good but by no means great cast to a le through Kobe, Durant, LeBron, and Wade, and without homecourt in the two toughest matchups. He turned the Lakers into a bunch of quitting gots and then all over the two most talented swings in the game in the Finals. He turned the whole ing country against 2x MVP James; sure they hated LeBron before, but they didn't think he was a like they do now.
Robinson was a playoff choker, and although he's a good moral and spiritual support leader, he was never an on-the-court leader. No matter how many bibles he beats or how many passages of scripture he quoted or how many charities he donated to--he was not a playoff leader. The grab-bag 90's WC sent a different team to the finals almost every year, yet the Spurs couldn't make it (before team leader Duncan) despite winning 50+ games every year? Not one appearance? Really?
During Robinson's playoff tenure as Spurs go-to guy, they never made the Finals and lost 5 times in a series where they had HCA. In only one of those 5 upsets did the team that beat them go on to make the Finals (Rockets, obviously)
His playoff legacy is getting the MVP ripped from his hands in brutal fashion in the WCF.
Tim Duncan saved him, and taught him how to win.
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