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    Could you please put me on your ignore list? Thanks.
    No, I like the comedy you bring. It's so comical that you are so ignorant that you don't see your stupidity. Feel free to ignore me however.

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    No, I like the comedy you bring. It's so comical that you are so ignorant that you don't see your stupidity. Feel free to ignore me however.
    I bet that line was a hit with the lady you were stalking online too.

    Is it time yet to start another thread about yourself and play the buffoon again? Apparently getting your ass kicked never gets old.

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    I gave up trying to make ElNono understand reason. He is one twisted puppy.
    I normally don't agree with these descriptions. But after this thread, I agree 100%

    "Iraq invading Kuwait did not trigger the war. The fact that Saddam defied the resolution to withdraw is what really triggered it."

    homeboy got a few screws loose

    not knowing the meaning of the word INVASION
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    No, I like the comedy you bring. It's so comical that you are so ignorant that you don't see your stupidity. Feel free to ignore me however.

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    No, I like the comedy you bring. It's so comical that you are so ignorant that you don't see your stupidity. Feel free to ignore me however.
    ElNono is rather well respected. Che is noted for conspiracy theories and you are universally regaled as the village idiot.

    When i call you stupid i point to things like your working with capacitors every day but not knowing the properties of nor the availability of type or your lack of ability to distinguish between functions and variables.

    There are clearly outlined reasons that can be independently verified. Your reputation around here is well defined. Making ad hominem attacks on him is just as deplorable as your hypocrisy of the above considering your whining about the peanut gallery.

    You truly lack the ability for independent thought.

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    I normally don't agree with these descriptions. But after this thread, I agree 100%

    "Iraq invading Kuwait did not trigger the war. The fact that Saddam defied the resolution to withdraw is what really triggered it."

    homeboy got a few screws loose

    not knowing the meaning of the word INVASION
    Technically he is right. You two are just arguing over a manner of degree on a point that matters little. We did not even spearhead the Libya thing. Sarkozy was all over that and the action was preceded by UN resolution which authorized the use of force. El is correct in saying that.

    Ostensibly, the cause was the invasion or in Khadafi's case his rhetoric on state television.

    And I am still trying to wrap my mind around how you think that oil interests in Libya organized the internal revolt. Or is your conspiracy that Saudi and US oil interests formented the revolt with plants because the last time I checked Khadafi controlled the oil in Libya.

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    Technically he is right. You two are just arguing over a manner of degree on a point that matters little. We did not even spearhead the Libya thing. Sarkozy was all over that and the action was preceded by UN resolution which authorized the use of force. El is correct in saying that.
    Sorry but to say "Iraq war started because Saddam invaded Kuwait" is also correct. To say that is not correct because of your technicality is simply infantile. Once Saddam invaded Kuwait there was no turning back on the war. It's silly to think there was a possibility he could have withdrawn and thus avoided the war. You don't invade a country to withdraw a few days later, that completely violates the purpose of invasion. Saddam ignoring any dumb ass resolution was part of his INVASION.

    And I am still trying to wrap my mind around how you think that oil interests in Libya organized the internal revolt. Or is your conspiracy that Saudi and US oil interests formented the revolt with plants because the last time I checked Khadafi controlled the oil in Libya.
    I never said we organized the revolts. I am saying we picked a side. Once again picked a side that goes to our interest, ignoring the instability that would cause and the fact that it might come back to bite us as it has in the past.
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    I normally don't agree with these descriptions. But after this thread, I agree 100%

    "Iraq invading Kuwait did not trigger the war. The fact that Saddam defied the resolution to withdraw is what really triggered it."

    homeboy got a few screws loose

    not knowing the meaning of the word INVASION
    ElNono has become nothing more than a cheerleader for the left.

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    Are you familiar with the history between France and Libya formerly known as the Barbary Coast?

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    what about it

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    "Iraq invading Kuwait did not trigger the war. The fact that Saddam defied the resolution to withdraw is what really triggered it."

    homeboy got a few screws loose
    Am I wrong? I quoted the resolutions and the chain of events...

    Tell me I'm wrong

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    Sorry but to say "Iraq war started because Saddam invaded Kuwait" is also correct. To say that is not correct because of your technicality is simply infantile. Once Saddam invaded Kuwait there was no turning back on the war. It's silly to think there was a possibility he could have withdrawn and thus avoided the war. You don't invade a country to withdraw a few days later, that completely violates the purpose of invasion. Saddam ignoring any dumb ass resolution was part of his INVASION.
    This is baloney. Saddam had no choice? Says who?

    I never said we organized the revolts. I am saying we picked a side. Once again picked a side that goes to our interest, ignoring the instability that would cause and the fact that it might come back to bite us as it has in the past.
    So the the problem isn't that we picked a side, but which side we picked.

    And as Fuzzy correctly points out too, this was a French-led operation.

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    ElNono has become nothing more than a cheerleader for the left.
    shhhh... be quiet. Adults speaking.

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    Tripoli and all of the mediterranean countries have a long history of issues. The Ottoman Empire supported pirates out of Tripoli for centuries, France embargoed them for a very long time. More recently Ghadafi and France have butted heads over influnece in Morrocco and other west african states. Further there are a good amount of Libyan immigrants and i am sure you have read the news concerning France and legislation concerning muslim immigrants.

    Like i said Sarkozy had a hard on for Libya.

    Because Spain, italy and France are not quite so enamored with Syria, we have not intervened there. I do not doubt that oil interests were not prime political interests as well but trying to paint a conspiracy where its oil barons controlling foreign policy misses a lot of history.

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    Elections are in June right?

    Just have to wait and see.

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    Because Spain, italy and France are not quite so enamored with Syria, we have not intervened there. I do not doubt that oil interests were not prime political interests as well but trying to paint a conspiracy where its oil barons controlling foreign policy misses a lot of history.
    It also misses that countries like China or Russia, who have veto power in the UN security council, would bark right away if they perceived any benefits to the US (like they did when Powell presented it's case seeking a resolution to invade Iraq and was denied).

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    such a great success deposing of Ghadafi

    Witnesses: Tribal clashes in Libya kill scores

    Scores of civilians have been killed in the past 24 hours in tribal warfare in a remote region of southern Libya, witnesses said on Tuesday.

    Moussa Bazama, an ambulance worker driving north taking the injured to treatment, said 50 people had been killed by the rockets, mortars and gunfire rocking residential areas in the desert town of Kufra.

    Lines of trucks and cars carrying hundreds of families were streaming out of Kufra on the highway leading towards the populated areas of the coast, some 500 miles (800 kilometers) away.

    “The situation is extremely bad,’’ said Abdel-Rehim al-Shewih, an engineer in Kufra contacted by phone. “It is about who kills the most every day.’’

    Libya’s defense ministry said on several occasions that it sent troops to stop the clashes, but witnesses said that those forces have not intervened to stop the war.

    “Officials say: ‘This is tribal. So what? Let them tear each other apart?’’’ al-Shewih said. “Blood is spilled every day, non-stop.’’


    http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-2...ul-jalil-kufra

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    where is NATO?

    More than 100 killed in south Libya clashes

    Fierce clashes between two tribes in Libya’s remote southeastern desert have killed more than 100 people over the past 10 days, tribal sources said on Tuesday.

    At least 113 people from the Toubu tribe and another 23 from the Zwai tribe have been killed in the town of Kufra since fighting erupted on February 12, the sources said.

    “We are under siege since a week. Since the start of the clashes, 113 people (from our side) have been killed, including six children,” Toubu chief Issa Abdelmajid told AFP by telephone.

    oh that's right, they ed the country up, got rid of Ghadafi, mission accomplished and left the people to the dogs

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    more intervention is needed, then?

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    mission accomplished


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    more intervention is needed, then?

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    should we have stayed longer, in your opinion?

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    would you let this guy operate on your mom in the first place?


    US/NATO are that guy

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    thanks for using your words. makes it much easier to understand what you post.

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