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Would trading Blair + our first round pick for a higher first round pick be out of the question?
Gobert is a center and is/will be bigger than that. He is still growing and should end up at 7'2". He has also a 7'8" wingspan. He seems to have a better at ude than Ajinça and Petro who were too highly physical gifted draft prospects.
Would trading Blair + our first round pick for a higher first round pick be out of the question?
i didn't follow the draft as close as in recent years, but from what I can say, the class is looking far less impressive, than reported before the season.
up front only Davis looks like a potential franchise player and while there might be a slightly above average number of big men with legit NBA potential, the class still doesn't look much deeper than 10 and 11.
yes, Spurs gave up on JA, but I think they should think twice before they use the pick instead of trading it.
I would prefer they bring in DeColo instead of the (much less experienced) young player they would get with the pick. this would still bolster the Spurs talent pool and looking at the Lin story makes me confident, that DeColo could find his niche as well.
so, use the pick at the deadline for a big man, (I'm still high on the Ilyasova scenario), best case they bring back a decent 2nd rounder in the deal as well, bring in DeColo and Lorbek this summer.
considering how well the Spurs are playing currently (even without Manu), I'm willing to once more go the immediate help route. Spurs already secured a pretty impressive talent pool anyhow and franchise type talent to replace Tim and Manu won't be found in the 20ies anyhow.
I wouldn't give up the first rounder for Ersan. While I like his game and he would be an upgrade over Blair, I still think this years first rounder is valuable. I agree with you about this years draft, but only in regard to franchise talent. There doesn't appear to be "true franchise" players, but there appears to be a lot of depth with regards to rotational players and that is valuable especially with the Spurs ability to draft so well.
I would rather keep the pick, still try and bring over De Colo and Lorbek if Ersan is the only thing the pick can get you. I am for trading the pick, but I would want more than Ersan (knowing that in order for that to happen, it might be tough since the pick is not going to be a high one and in terms of market value, Ersan might be fair for the pick for most teams).
I think there's good depth in the draft, and you can get a good rotation player in the draft at 25. You also might be able to get a rotation player at 37(Kings in a Thompspn deal) or 39(Bucks in a Ilyasova deal.)
Kevin Jones is currently 43rd on the DX board, I think he could be a role player. Not as good a prospect as what's available at 25, but if it increases your shot at a le, that move down is worthwhile.
I think Green has played himself into a better deal this summer, and if another team offers something too high I'm not sure the Spurs would match it. Anything north of 10M/3year seems like a reach. I would try to flip Green for something during this draft.
I hope the Spurs are able to get some sort of value for JA before the deadline, even if it's an early 2nd round pick. It gives them another asset to shop around. As I've mentioned before, Blair should also be another asset the Spurs float.
I agree Joseph is probably two years away from being able to be counted and Ford is walking glass. There is a lot of roads we can take but I think we can all agree that Anderson, RJ and Blair are gone at the end of this season.
I would be happy to bring over De Colo who can be backup PG and take Andersons minutes at SG.......then use Anderson/Blair to move up in the draft rounds....I would be OK with SF. Jeff Taylor and then PF Augusto Lima ..replacing RJ, Blair....
Not necessarly have to agree.
Anderson : if nobody gives him more than what we can afford, I'll give him some more years (yes, I said years). If he train and find back his shoot (main, but not the only reason we drafted him) ha could be absolutely serviceble in the role of the player capable of playing guard/forward. He's a good guy and has already shown he can bring good energy to the team. Just need to buiold his personality and take back his coinfidence.
Probably, no one is gonna sign him for more than we can afford, so ther'e the chance of a cheap three years contract a la Blair. Could be beneficial for both parties
Blair : as a 15 minutes big (that in any case is the only role he cn play if he want survive for more than other 5 seasons in the nba, given his problematic knees) he's still an o.k. solution for years to come. Knows the system and at least in one side of the court (last year offense, this one defense) he has shown he can be decent. This year was for knowing a bit more the system. Next he should definitely improve again. He needs to play without thinking too much. When he'll have metabolized at least a good part of our infinite play book, he should improve his contribution considerably...and at a small price.
R.J. : if he's not traded during the season (and that, maybe, could be the best option for everybody : imho there are a lot of teams with up tempo style where RJ could still shine) it all depends of Tim and how many bucks he'll sign for next year.
I say that 'cause the only contracts we have to sign next year are :
1) Ford (in case) : good guy that has been integrated very well, but deserve still only a minimum contract or just something , but not a lot, more, because of injuries...it's a given that he's too fragile to be counted as stable in the rotation of any nba team, but we can afford that 'cause of some other player decently capable to play the point for some minutes (aside of Parker there are Neal, Manu, Green) while Joseph learn;
2) Green (that should not command a lot of money...and we have to consider that he never has played really well before this season; his contract could be between the 1,5 till the 2,5, max 3 millions a year);
3) JA (see before; contract between 800.000 and 1.500.000 a year);
After that (in case we don't change our roster with trades) the only spots to fill are still the same of this moment : two bigs.
And one of these can probably be filled with the signing of Lorbek (if he still want to play in the nba...for a le contender) paiying him an amount under the excepions.
The other one can be filled with our first round draft choice (over the n° 20, so not a very large contract) or with somebody traded for that draft choice.
So i wouldn't count RJ out, at least for next season.
In any case, we will still have the chance to amnesty him the year after, in caswe he decides (as probably he will) to exercise his player option...
So, imho, it all depends by Tim.
If he signs for a small amount of money, also RJ could be still part of the mix...
Yeah a lot of ways we can go to me I don't think we will be able to attract any major free agents. The best I think we can do is bring over Lobrek who fits a need for us at the PF position.
I don't want to give up on Anderson but I have to say a nice article was written about players who have had foot injuries in the past. That is a bad injury to have for any athlete let alone a basketball player and he has had two foot injuries. But you right I think he can turn it around and would still want to hold on to him for a little longer and will be cheap.
One of my favorite players has become Green the guy is just a basketball player. He does the little things that you need if your team is going to win ball games. I honestly think he can get better if he works on his ball handling and mid range game this summer.
It is looking like we will have a late first rounder in this years draft so we might trade it to avoid $$/. If we keep it the only players looking at being were we draft are...Jeff Taylor - SF.....Festus Ezeli - C....Arnett Moultrie - PF/C or a young potential like TONY MITC (NORTH TEXAS) or maybe draft over seas player which would be Cesar Lima - PF.
ppl who say corey is 2 years away from being a good rotational player
what happen if he doesnt panned out? wasted 2yrs tryin to develop him while opportunity costing some player/draft
We pretty much did the same thing with Henderson........and your right at this point he is not even close to running a NBA team. It would suck though if Anderson and Smiley both don't make it......sucks for us and will suck harder for RC.
PG isn't an emminent concern at this point with TP in his prime. I dont think 2 years to see what a player has is bad at all. As a player you just pray you can convince and not have crap luck like Andreson with injury and lockout in the first two years of your rookie deal.
We'll be focused on replacing post play for years to come whether by draft or trade. So I don't see us "forsaking" draft picks over the next two years.
Plus Cory was a late 1st rounder... Have to play the odds on that.
Hey for all you international fans what are your thoughts on Tomas Satoransky 6'6 PG/SG Czech Republic? Can he play PG in the NBA?
I was looking at the mocks and Furkan Aldemir stuck out at me. I really like him as our late 2nd round draft n' stash selection. Hes currently slated as an early 2nd rounder, but based on his long European contract (3 more years?) I doubt many teams will be too interested. He'll slide. And sure, hes not a top flight prospect, but hes a guy that might be able to carve out a nice career as a rotation big in the NBA, and hes got great size for a 4 at 6'10.
Hes my early choice for the late 2nd rounder.
Aldemir is a big time prospect. I doubt he will be available in the late secodn round if he enters and stays in this draft. He is first round material.
But so was Xavi Rabaseda and he went undrafted.
I may be barking up the wrong tree entirely, but I could see him sliding, for the same reasons that Splitter slid. But Splitter was starting much higher up the boards than Aldemir.
I don't see him at all a first rounder just based on his contract and that he can make very good money playing in the league he is in. That might change if he really starts telling people he WANTS to play int he NBA.
So it is looking more and more like we will be drafting Jeffery Taylor - 6'7 SF/Vanderbilt in the first round. Not much of a college person but on film he look like a player who can fit in our half court system. I also like the way he can get to the rim and is able to finish with a dunk.
As far as our second round "Draft Net" has us taking another SF..Kenny Gabriel 6'8...I read somewhere he was most improved player this month...Like I said earlier if we are able to sign Lobrek...that takes care of our PF postion...Then we draft Jeffery Taylor at SF with our first round.......Then we starting working the phones and try to trade Blair,or Anderson for a high second round pick..........in that pick I want -Augusto Cesar Lima 6'10 PF....Amenesty RJ
So we bring in Lobrek PF- more of outside on offense
Draft Jeffery Taylor SF - Half court player, athletic and can take it to the rim...dunk!
Augusto Lima 6/10 PF - more inside on offense
Also since Cory won't be ready for 3 years and Ford is fragile I wouln't mind bringing in De Colo for a look....he can replace Andersons minutes and play pg a lot better then Neal..
Is it safe to say the Spurs will FINALLY draft another big man this year?
Seems like they're set at PG with Parker/COJO/Ford, SG with Manu, Neal, Green.
The Spurs may amnesty RJ, let Kawhi start or sign a SF like Batum or some scrub or just let Green take all the backup SF mins.
I really hope the Spurs sign a C and draft a PF. I was scanning through scouting reports of the available PF's the Spurs may be able to get and I really like Patric Young.
He's a PF, around 6'8-6'10, he's 248lbs of nothing but muscle. I haven't seen him play but his body looks like a young Ben Wallace. He's got some sick athleticism, he's a great defender as well, pretty darn quick for his size, a high motor, and he's a very good rebounder. His offensive game is poor though.
I really hope the Spurs can get someone like him, the Spurs REALLY need a PF with his size and skill set to guard guys like Davis, Bass, Patterson, Arthur, etc. other athletic PF's that just kill the Spurs. He could also handle a lot of C's with his size.
No its not safe to assume a big will be drafted..When you draft in the late 20's you dont get the option to simply draft who you want. Best player available..
I think there's a good chance the Spurs trade their pick. They'll prob try to trade up if there's a guy they really rate, similarly to last year's using Blair/Neal/Green but if this fails, which is likely, I don't think they'd want to add salary and reduce their cap space.
Besides, if they've decided to bring Lorbek and De Colo, they might not have a roster spot and minutes for a 3rd rookie.
Or draft another Euro....
I thought about that scenario but it just seems like the Spurs are way too stacked at the other positions except SF as there may be a vacant spot this summer. I think the chances of them drafting a big man are much higher especially since TD is not only becoming a FA this year but he's getting older and declining much more.
I wouldn't be shocked if they traded the pick either though.
"best available player" isn't a zero-sum game though.
you can and often will try to evaluate at the very highest level between, say, a point guard and a center, because the team may revolve around them and you can evaluate their relative impact at its center.
but further down it's pretty nigh on impossible to evaluate radically different types of player against each other. If there is a guard who seems legit, and there isn't a big, then you can call it a simple case of best available. But that's unlikely.
Still not safe to assume anything with RC & Pop. I Remeber last years draft and seeing that Jordan Williams was available. i thought they were going to draft him but then i hear the name cory Joesph.
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