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    Do you really think the Pacers are gonna let Hibbert go somewhere else this summer? Not gonna happen

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    For those saying Amnesty RJ > Okafor... What do you think we can get in the off-season that's better than Okafor?
    Rasho Nesterovic

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    Do you really think the Pacers are gonna let Hibbert go somewhere else this summer? Not gonna happen
    Thats really up to Hibbert, not the Pacers.

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    Thats really up to Hibbert, not the Pacers.
    It's up to the Pacers, he's restricted.

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    It's up to the Pacers, he's restricted.
    Yep, I was just going to re-edit after I looked it up. Sometimes, it pays to look things up ahead of time.

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    Championship is ours! It makes sense that the Toros signed Julian Wright.

    C - Duncan, Splitter
    PF - Okafor, Bonner
    SF Leonard, Wright
    SG - Manu, Green
    PG - Parker, Neal

    Championship line-up!
    Finally someone who is a smart Basketball fan, I like this line up

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    at the idea of the NBA owned team helping out the Spurs.

    Now maybe if it was LA...

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    Finally someone who is a smart Basketball fan, I like this line up
    Anyone who thinks RJ is tradeable is not a smart basketball fan, sure that would be nice if it happened but it wont

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    I'd of thought the FO has been negotiating this with Duncan for a while surely?
    Doubt it. The Spurs would like that but what does Duncan have to gain? It will all come down to how he feels at the end of the season. The Spurs wouldn't pressure him to come to a decision now and that's the last thing on Duncan's mind at the moment.





    P.S.

    Does Duncan even have an agent these days? Serious question.

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    People really think someone wants Jefferson and his remaining 21m contract?

    The only way to trade Jefferson is bringing another contract back or adding value. I doubt our FO does it, considering that we can just use the amnesty clause on him.

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    Okafors contract is worse than RJ's

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    I think Timvp has gone nuts. Is Okafor perfect? No, but he gives the Spurs another legit (albeit over paid) big man that would force a defensive brand of ball. Yes, spurs would lose out on the ability to amnesty RJ, but I would argue that the Spurs could salary dump Okafor if they wanted; you can move competent big men if you really want; RJ not so much.

    Not only that, but Okafor is better than anyone Spurs could hope for in FA anyways. Spurs, especially if they aren't going into scorched Earth mode are in win now mode and must do something quasi-significant to bolster the front line defensively.
    Okafors contract is worse than RJ's
    Pick a side.

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    I like Okafor. Doubt the Spurs could get him, but it would be glorious if they could do it.

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    Anyone who thinks RJ is tradeable is not a smart basketball fan, sure that would be nice if it happened but it wont
    People really think someone wants Jefferson and his remaining 21m contract?

    The only way to trade Jefferson is bringing another contract back or adding value. I doubt our FO does it, considering that we can just use the amnesty clause on him.
    Actually, yes, since Okafors contract has about 27-28 mil left..People, the spurs do not want to pay RJ 80% of his current contract while he is playing for another team which would happen if he was amnisteed. That is a last resort for the spurs FO.

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    I did. You can have a worse contract and still be easier to move. In fact, I outlined why I thought that in the very part you highlighted in case you missed it (competent big men).

    They aren't mutually exclusive those posts you quoted.

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    Actually, yes, since Okafors contract has about 27-28 mil left..People, the spurs do not want to pay RJ 80% of his current contract while he is playing for another team which would happen if he was amnisteed. That is a last resort for the spurs FO.
    You forgot the part that NOLA doesn't want any part of Jefferson and his 21m contract.

    If the Spurs don't want to pay 's contract, they shouldn't have given him a 39m contract when he didn't deserve half of that in the 1st place. You make a mistake, you deal with it.

    Any team in the league would rather pay 27m for Emeka instead of 21m for Jefferson, including NOLA.

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    I did. You can have a worse contract and still be easier to move. In fact, I outlined why I thought that in the very part you highlighted in case you missed it (competent big men).

    They aren't mutually exclusive those posts you quoted.
    I believe that they are.

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    Why?

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    You forgot the part that NOLA doesn't want any part of Jefferson and his 21m contract.

    If the Spurs don't want to pay 's contract, they shouldn't have given him a 39m contract when he didn't deserve half of that in the 1st place. You make a mistake, you deal with it.

    Any team in the league would rather pay 27m for Emeka instead of 21m for Jefferson, including NOLA.
    of course anyone would want Okafor over RJ but thats why the spurs would need to sweeten the pot a little: draft pick and some youth. Saving 6-7 mil over 2 years isnt all that bad a sweetner either...

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    Actually, yes, since Okafors contract has about 27-28 mil left..People, the spurs do not want to pay RJ 80% of his current contract while he is playing for another team which would happen if he was amnisteed. That is a last resort for the spurs FO.
    Yes that's true, but I don't see that the Hornets have a need for another small forward when they already have Aminu, and Ariza.

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    Yes that's true, but I don't see that the Hornets have a need for another small forward when they already have Aminu, and Ariza.
    If they needed to move Ariza i am pretty sure there would be takers...But yes, that is 1 of many things wrong with this trade rumour..

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    For the obvious reason; the two positions contradict one another.

    To even begin to convince me otherwise you would have to make your case that Okafor's contract is worse than RJ's. I see RJ's contract as significantly worse, as does everyone that's commented on their relative value in this thread. Feel free to try, but I don't see how you can make that case. RJ at 2/21 is much worse that Okafor at 2/28.

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    I meant worse with regards to money owed, not value. The person I quoted stated RJs money owed and I replied with Okafors is worse and in context I was referring to total money owed.

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    I meant worse with regards to money owed, not value. The person I quoted stated RJs money owed and I replied with Okafors is worse and in context I was referring to total money owed.
    I did. You can have a worse contract and still be easier to move. In fact, I outlined why I thought that in the very part you highlighted in case you missed it (competent big men).

    They aren't mutually exclusive those posts you quoted.
    That's not what you said, even in reply to my post.

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    Then you mean, more expensive, not worse.

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