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    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    Not the trade being discussed, but Spurs get Al Jefferson (can he play next to Duncan?). He's a better scorer than Splitter.

    The Jazz need more small forwards apparently (if Josh Howard is their only 'serviceable' small forward). Maybe Richard will do better there. Plus Splitter is white; they seem to like that up there. Still might have to get them to drink a lot first, however, which will be tricky since they're Mormons. CIA Pop can slip them a Mickey.

    Spurs start Leonard and have Green / Anderson split the backup small forward minutes.

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    Spurs to Sign Karl Malone
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    Classic. The ST meltdown that created was legendary.

    Turned out the Spurs called the press conference to announce the retirement of Sean Elliott's jersey.

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    If it's hoopsworld it might be BS!

    a press conference will be held 5:00 central tonight making it official.

    Spurs to Sign Karl Malone
    By Bill Ingram
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    Dec 15, 2004, 12:41




    Get ready. The hype surrounding the Spurs is well deserved. After all, they boast the perennial league MVP, they have the star player for this year's Olympic gold medal basketball team, they have great young talents at point guard. Their second unit features NBA champion Robert Horry, the energetic and perseverant Malik Rose, and veteran big man Tony Massenburg. They have excellent defenders and three-point shooters, they have veteran experience and youth . . .what could be missing?




    Well, there is one individual who would like to ride the Tim Duncan express to the Finals. He thought he could get one with Shaq and Kobe last year, but the Detroit Pistons derailed that pipe dream. He made it to the Finals twice with former Siamese twin John Stockton. The only thing missing from his illustrious career is the championship ring that has thus far eluded him. Today he hopes to take care of that last item on his check list.




    The Spurs are holding a press conference today to announce that they have agreed to terms with Karl Malone, a move that will shatter the hopes of the Miami Heat and the LA Lakers, two teams who hoped to lure him to their camps. Kobe Bryant ended any hope that Malone would return to LA and Shaq was unsuccessful in convincing Malone that the Heat have a shot at getting past Detroit - much less the Spurs.




    San Antonio, meanwhile, would like to shore up their front line. Gregg Popovich has been frustrated with the play of Rasho Nesterovic, and has recently opted to run without a true center in the lineup for long stretches of games. Malone will likely find himself playing alongside Tim Duncan when Rasho hits the bench. The Spurs will hope that Malone takes some pressure off of Tim and give them that extra presence that helps get them past Phoenix and Seattle when the stretch run begins.



    It should be remembered that Malone is returning from surgery on a stress fracture in his leg. He's not the spry young man he used to be, and age seems to be catching up with him at an alarming rate. Will he be able to play extended minutes without going down for an extended period of time with another injury?




    The Spurs won't be basing their hopes for another championship on Karl Malone, but you can bet that this is Malone's last chance to get one. If he can contribute the Spurs could be downright scary by the time April rolls around. At the very least the Spurs prevent the Lakers from signing Malone. Malone could have been a major factor for the Lakers or the Heat. In San Antonio anything he adds will be a bonus, and it may be that he chose the situation that would be easiest on his body while also giving him the best chance to win a le.




    Stay tuned to HOOPSWORLD for the latest on the signing of Karl Malone!

    Karl Malone: First choice was Spurs, not Lakers

    http://projectspurs.com/2012-article...ot-lakers.html


    And again that article wasn't by Alex Kennedy

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    Good to hear that

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    The Malone to the Spurs Hoopsworld story was for the 2004-05 season. Malone in that link is talking about the previous season.





    Hoopsworld was trash for a while but it seems they have broken a few factual stories here and there lately. Haven't really paid attention, though. And I don't really see a point of Kennedy lying about this rather meaningless trade.

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    If theres any way we can include randolph in the trade please do it!!

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    San Antonio, meanwhile, would like to shore up their front line. Gregg Popovich has been frustrated with the play of Rasho Nesterovic, and has recently opted to run without a true center in the lineup for long stretches of games.
    This was a prelude to when Pop's coaching philosophy had a sex change. 2006 vs. the dreaded Dallas Mavericks with Avery Johnson playing mind games and dictating matchups. Never been the same since then.

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    Only trade I would consider

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7fnpx39

    Like someone mentioned Green is highly overrated on this board, and James Anderson could do as much as he could lately. Spurs find a PF, and back up PG. I still don't see a way we can get rid of RJ, but maybe there will be a miracle, and someone in the Jazz may think he can be useful.
    What do you consider "lately"?

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    With Manu's health uncertainty, this whole thing makes little sense. With Neal now charged with full time backup point guard duties, Green is the closest thing now to to a viable backup shooting guard the spurs have. Unless you count Anderson, which I don't.

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    There, now everyone can relax a bit

    Marc J. Spears ‏ @SpearsNBAYahoo

    Lakers, Spurs, Knicks and Celtics have expressed interest in trading for Utah G-F Josh Howard, a source says. Jazz don't want to make deal.

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    Howard is a hardcore doper gangsta with the brains of a peanut whos skills are well past the "use by" date. He is not Spurs material and Pop will hate the guy. I hope this rumor is BS.

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    Will Jackson be bought out?

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    There, now everyone can relax a bit

    Marc J. Spears ‏ @SpearsNBAYahoo

    Lakers, Spurs, Knicks and Celtics have expressed interest in trading for Utah G-F Josh Howard, a source says. Jazz don't want to make deal.
    ace3g with the goods. Took some hits for posting a Hoopsworld rumor but it turned out to have legs since Yahoo basically confirmed it.

    Nice job

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    Why is everyone after Josh Howard? Haven't watched many Utah games at all this season, but I thought he's been average this season?

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    There, now everyone can relax a bit

    Marc J. Spears ‏ @SpearsNBAYahoo

    Lakers, Spurs, Knicks and Celtics have expressed interest in trading for Utah G-F Josh Howard, a source says. Jazz don't want to make deal.
    All Spears had to say was another team was interested in Howard. That would officially eliminate the Spurs.

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    hopefully he just got the names wrong

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    Still don't understand why the Spurs are so hot for Howard.

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    I'm guessing the Jazz are floating out these rumors to drive up Howard's price so they can ship him off. I highly doubt there's a natural bidding war for J-Ho.

    But if teams are interested, they must be looking at his last ten games in which he's averaging 12 points and 4.8 rebounds while shooting 45.9% from the field.

    Really though, unless RJ is traded, J-Ho really doesn't make sense for the Spurs. Even if Danny Green isn't involved and they trade him for James Anderson and TJ Ford, I don't see how he helps. He's too slow to play shooting guard these days. Doesn't rebound well enough anymore to play stretch four.

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    Why is everyone after Josh Howard? Haven't watched many Utah games at all this season, but I thought he's been average this season?
    Pop just loves acquiring those former "spur killers" even after they become washed up has-beens.

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    I'm guessing the Jazz are floating out these rumors to drive up Howard's price so they can ship him off. I highly doubt there's a natural bidding war for J-Ho.

    But if teams are interested, they must be looking at his last ten games in which he's averaging 12 points and 4.8 rebounds while shooting 45.9% from the field.

    Really though, unless RJ is traded, J-Ho really doesn't make sense for the Spurs. Even if Danny Green isn't involved and they trade him for James Anderson and TJ Ford, I don't see how he helps. He's too slow to play shooting guard these days. Doesn't rebound well enough anymore to play stretch four.


    The new Finley replacement.

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    while your at it; might aswell let you all know Spurs are offering me a 3 year 35 mil contract for starting super fan.

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    Howard makes $2,150,000.

    Anderson makes $1,463,520. Ford and Anderson both make $854,389.

    So that's a savings of $1,022,298. Multiply that by two to account for the luxury tax savings and we're at $2,044,596.

    But then the Spurs would be down to 11 players. They'd probably have to sign a fifth bigman and a replacement for Ford, which would eat up a chunk of that room they just saved.

    ............seems like a lot of effort to not save that much money, tbh.
    it's comes down to Green for Howard and I can see them do this, even if they don't save money via this move. most poster here bash Howard and yes, he is a shadow of his former self, but he doesn't look worse than last season with the Wizards and the Spurs still wanted him this summer after that season in WAS.
    but if some picks were involved (that come in, not go out), the move would look more logical of course.

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    PER being a flawed advanced statistic notwithstanding, I'm pretty sure every potential "trade" I've seen using the ESPN trade machine on spurstalk has the Spurs losing out or breaking even on Hollinger's "wins added" analysis

    It is possible for the Spurs to come out on top on hypothetical trades using a PER-centric analysis, right? *Checks* http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7dp9zy9

    Yep, it's possible

    It's just a fun little trend I've seen on SpursTalk. Every trade without exception that I've seen here has followed this mold (break even or decrease wins).

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    Classic. The ST meltdown that created was legendary.

    Turned out the Spurs called the press conference to announce the retirement of Sean Elliott's jersey.
    Man, could you imagine game 5 in Detroit with Warm Karl instead of Big Shot Rob???

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    it's comes down to Green for Howard and I can see them do this, even if they don't save money via this move. most poster here bash Howard and yes, he is a shadow of his former self, but he doesn't look worse than last season with the Wizards and the Spurs still wanted him this summer after that season in WAS.
    but if some picks were involved (that come in, not go out), the move would look more logical of course.
    Agreed, it does look like its a Green for Howard swap. Hard to turn away if thats all it took. With Ginobili being a bit unreliable nowadays I think adding Howard's versatility on offense could prove to be useful.

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