Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

[Fpoonsie]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=607

Read it. I asked specifically about the twitter account.

Wow. I gave you too much credit.

I never said that Zimmerman knew about his twitter account.

[Fpoonsie]

He looked guilty because he had a twitter account.

This is your theory.

No, it's not.

[Fpoonsie]

Trayvon Martin is dead. That makes your question moot.

Right. Because the "victim" is immediately expunged of any and every wrongdoing.

[ChumpDumper]

No, it's not.

Yeah, it is.

"If it walks like a duck..."

[Winehole23]

My point was that, while Zimmerman had no idea of Trayvon's history, those school records indicate that Trayvon had the propensity toward crime, and could've very well been behaving in a su ious manner when spotted, as well as, unfortunately, "looking the part" of one who might commit a crime.

they do not, but this gloss reveals your bias for sure

[Fpoonsie]

Yeah, it is.

Maybe we have different ideas of what that cliche means.

"If it looks su ious..."

[CosmicCowboy]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=607

Read it. I asked specifically about the twitter account.

THAT'S your proof?

He never claimed Zimmerman knew any specific background on Martin.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe we have different ideas of what that cliche means.

"If it looks su ious..."

The unknown twitter account made him look su ious.

This is your theory.

[Fpoonsie]

they do not, but this gloss reveals your bias for sure

Maybe we're reading different accounts of this. What did the school records show (or not show) according to reports YOU'VE read?

[Winehole23]

Right. Because the "victim" is immediately expunged of any and every wrongdoing.

I did not say so, but it is true that LE seldom charges dead people with new crimes. That would be your job, I guess...

[ChumpDumper]

THAT'S your proof?

He never claimed Zimmerman knew any specific background on Martin.

Exactly.

I think you just backed into understanding that.

Bravo!

[Fpoonsie]

The unknown twitter account made him look su ious.

This is your theory.

No. The "look" he was sporting as well as some supposed "su ious behavior" that Zimmerman alludes to was what made him look su ious. And the fact that (again, according to reports I've read) he had had trouble in school (fights, drugs, possible theft) don't necessarily paint the picture of a squeaky-clean teen.

[Winehole23]

Maybe we're reading different accounts of this. What did the school records show (or not show) according to reports YOU'VE read?

they did not reveal participation in criminal activity. nor do they show that Trayvon Martin "could've been behaving su iously" or "looked su ious" on the day he died, as you suggest. that's quite a stretch.

[Fpoonsie]

I did not say so, but it is true that LE seldom charges dead people with new crimes. That would be your job, I guess...

I'll readily admit that you often use terms that I'm completely unfamiliar with. What does "LE" mean?

And I'm not necessarily attaching any "new crimes" to Trayvon, but merely suggesting that the old ones not be overlooked.

[ChumpDumper]

No. The "look" he was sporting as well as some supposed "su ious behavior" that Zimmerman alludes to was what made him look su ious. And the fact that (again, according to reports I've read) he had had trouble in school (fights, drugs, possible theft) don't necessarily paint the picture of a squeaky-clean teen.

So the twitter account you raved about was completely irrelevant.

Thanks for walking back again, even though you are still trying to assassinate this dead kid's character to what end?

[TeyshaBlue]

When the crime is framed as armed vigilante kills innocent teen, then perhaps scrutiny of the framework is not completely without merit. I'm not weighing in defense of the gunman at all. But the observation that the questioning might be valid in some sense. No?

I'm prepared to be quite wrong on this as it shivers me ethical timbers a bit.

[CosmicCowboy]

Exactly.

I think you just backed into understanding that.

Bravo!

You are such a tool. You get your ass kicked and you claim victory.

It's a TWITTER account!

You're so eager to assassinate a dead teen's character, you don't even realize you're arguing that Zimmerman had full knowledge of Trayvon's sealed records and internet communications.

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That was YOUR straw man that just went down in flames.

[Fpoonsie]

they did not reveal participation in criminal activity. nor do they show that Trayvon Martin "could've been behaving su iously" or "looked su ious" on the day he died, as you suggest. that's quite a stretch.

We only have Zimmerman's account (in which he explicitly states that Trayvon looked su ious) and the girlfriend's. I highly doubt either account is without some bias, but that's all I've got to go off of as far as evidence at or near th scene...that is, until the eyewitnesses show up.

So, I'm left to piece things together outside of it, as are you. Not once have I definitively stated that Trayvon was acting in a manner in which preventative action may've been required. You, on the other hand, seem to offer no such room for doubt.

[Creepn]

No. The "look" he was sporting as well as some supposed "su ious behavior" that Zimmerman alludes to was what made him look su ious. And the fact that (again, according to reports I've read) he had had trouble in school (fights, drugs, possible theft) don't necessarily paint the picture of a squeaky-clean teen.

Oooh he was a black guy in a hoodie. Very very criminal.

Zimmerman knew NOTHING of the guy to be su ious of him.

[Winehole23]

And I'm not necessarily attaching any "new crimes" to Trayvon, but merely suggesting that the old ones not be overlooked.

Trayvon Martin's non-existent criminal record is not relevant to his manner of death, no matter how badly you want him to be guilty of something ...anything...

"troubles at school"

"looking the part"

"acting the part"

[Fpoonsie]

So the twitter account you raved about was completely irrelevant.

Not at all. The social networking sights shed light on his drug use and school fights.

[ChumpDumper]

You are such a tool. You get your ass kicked and you claim victory.

That was YOUR straw man that just went down in flames.

I said he didn't realize it. Of course it never made any sense.

Lo and behold, he completely abandoned the twitter account angle he so breathlessly pimped only a few posts earlier.

No. The "look" he was sporting as well as some supposed "su ious behavior" that Zimmerman alludes to was what made him look su ious. And the fact that (again, according to reports I've read) he had had trouble in school (fights, drugs, possible theft) don't necessarily paint the picture of a squeaky-clean teen.

Somehow you think that's getting my ass kicked. You just became SA210.

[Winehole23]

I'll readily admit that you often use terms that I'm completely unfamiliar with. What does "LE" mean?

law enforcement

[Goran Dragic]

You have a solid point that Zimmerman should not have left his car to pursue Martin. But that act, in and of itself is not illegal.

It's a strawman to act like anyone is saying "that act" is illegal. It's not illegal to pursue, but it makes claiming self defense against the person you're pursuing a lot harder to claim.

[Fpoonsie]

Oooh he was a black guy in a hoodie. Very very criminal.

Zimmerman knew NOTHING of the guy to be su ious of him.

I've already addressed that.

Try and keep up.