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    Where is the proof that Martin beat the out of Zimmerman?

    I still don't know why a medical examiner didn't do a report on Zimmerman's physical condition to corroborate his story.

    Police report and eyewitness accounts.


    Medical examiners do reports on dead people. FYI.
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    what?

    I'm a student and don't have any class on Tuesdays. I work part time and am too busy at work to ever post.

    attacking my posting frequency and making some random claim I steal from my employer.
    Being a student explains your lack of worldliness and passion about you know nothing about.

    Thanks for the clarification.
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    which is already under investigation by the Feds

    and eyewitness accounts.
    link? as far as I know. Noone saw the "scuffle"
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    I never said Zimmerman actually saw the skittles the kid had, I said he saw a kid with skittles. Are you denying the fact he saw a kid who had skittles?
    I'm denying the "fact" that he felt threatened by a kid he "saw with Skittles."

    He made a mistake assuming what was in this kid's hands was anything remotely threatening. Never claimed otherwise.
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    Being a student explains your lack of worldliness and passion about you know nothing about.

    Thanks for the clarification.
    so I went from a loser who steals from his employer to a student who lacks worldliness.

    Seems like you have a passion for someone you know nothing about
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    Police report and eyewitness accounts.


    Medical examiners do reports on dead people. FYI.
    I wonder what they will report to the police about the condition of his knuckles...
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    I'm denying the "fact" that he felt threatened by a kid he "saw with Skittles."
    I never said he felt threatened by a kid because he saw skittles. I simply said he saw a kid with skittles. This strawman is going nowhere for you.
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    Says the white punk walking around with his pants falling off trying desperately to be ghetto cool.
    I never understood how a fad started with people thinking it's cool to wear pants like a Prison Fairy.
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    Where is the proof that Martin beat the out of Zimmerman?

    I still don't know why a medical examiner didn't do a report on Zimmerman's physical condition to corroborate his story.
    If you are too stupid or lazy to read at least one of the mul ude of articles on the subject (or even he police report someone posted earlier in the thread) then why don't you get the out of this conversation? Zimmerman had a broken nose and contusions on the back of his head consistent with being slammed into the concrete. He was treated at the scene by EMS.
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    I never said he felt threatened by a kid because he saw skittles. I simply said he saw a kid with skittles. This strawman is going nowhere for you.
    I'll readily admit that I may've been wrong when inferring what I thought you were implying.
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    I never understood how a fad started with people thinking it's cool to wear pants like a Prison Fairy.
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    Police report and eyewitness accounts.


    Medical examiners do reports on dead people. FYI.
    Victims of beatings don't ever get examined?

    Is there any proof that Zimmerman was "beaten up" other than a police report that's being investigated right now?
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    If you are too stupid or lazy to read at least one of the mul ude of articles on the subject (or even he police report someone posted earlier in the thread) then why don't you get the out of this conversation? Zimmerman had a broken nose and contusions on the back of his head consistent with being slammed into the concrete.
    I'd believe that if I saw pictures/evidence of these injuries Zimmerman suffered. I don't believe a word in the police report. If I did I'd believe Zimmerman was defending himself.
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    Says the white punk walking around with his pants falling off trying desperately to be ghetto cool.
    Seriously, CC -- where did you get this?
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    Peaden is a former senator with no elected office he needs to worry about. Try again.
    And that proves that Zimmerman should have been arrested how?

    Arrest requires probable cause. What part of the law destroys any probable cause the police have?
    I'll give this to you one time but I acknowledge that it is a complete waste of my time trying to explain this to you.

    776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:

    (1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or

    (2) Under those cir stances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.


    Your fact issue here is whether it was reasonable for Zimmerman to believe that he needed to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. This will not be a hard case to make considering the injuries he suffered at the scene of the incident.

    Please note that this law says nothing about who is pursuing who nor does it really call into consideration any cir stantial evidence. Therefore, I do not care if he was right to follow Martin and if he exceeded his position of community watcher.


    776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

    (1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

    (2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

    (3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).

    In sum, eye witness says he saw Martin beating the crap out of Zimmerman.
    Zimmerman says Martin was beating the crap out of him.
    Zimmerman says he was fearful of death and/or great bodily harm.

    =

    No probable cause for the police to suspect that use of force was unlawful.

    That is where we are in this case. That is why there has not been an arrest. If evidence shows that use of force was unlawful, then they can arrest Zimmerman. Those are the relevant facts of the case based on the local police departments findings. A prosecutor cannot then step in and bring an action if the police say there is nothing to see here.

    The Florida Law doesn't care about twitter messages, criminal records, racism or anything else.
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    Victims of beatings don't ever get examined?

    Is there any proof that Zimmerman was "beaten up" other than a police report that's being investigated right now?
    Well, Zimmerman was treated at the scene by EMS. Are you claiming they are lying too? It's all a conspiracy to cover up the murder of that poor innocent black child?
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    Seriously, CC -- where did you get this?
    No actual factual basis. His posts just style like some pimple faced wanna be bad ass.
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    I'd believe that if I saw pictures/evidence of these injuries Zimmerman suffered. I don't believe a word in the police report. If I did I'd believe Zimmerman was defending himself.
    Yeah, considering the facts I have heard so far this sounds like a reasonable conclusion.
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    Well, Zimmerman was treated at the scene by EMS. Are you claiming they are lying too?
    Is there a statement from the EMS people who treated him? Any kind of record of the treatment he received?

    It's all a conspiracy to cover up the murder of that poor innocent black child?
    Call me crazy for thinking cops in a Southern predominantly white town MIGHT do stuff to cover up the murder of black people after their evidence and report get handed to the feds for further investigating.
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    Ok. You're crazy.
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    Victims of beatings don't ever get examined?

    Is there any proof that Zimmerman was "beaten up" other than a police report that's being investigated right now?
    I posted a linked earlier to the police department web site. What they have released so far is that Zimmereman was hurt and treated by a medical team at the site. They said said injuries were consistent with self defense.

    Look at the last two paragraphs here on page 3.

    Read this as well.
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    Well, yeah, there's a lot of that going around.
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    Well, yeah, there's a lot of that going around.
    thus why I said, nobody knows what happened. Either way.

    All we know is an unarmed man was shot point blank and the shooter was let go without proper investigation by merely claiming self defense. thus why the Feds are involved.
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