One of my pet stats. I hadn't noticed it, but a 50% drop is too much to overlook, or to blame on net getting the ball in the last seconds. But some portion of it probably is due to the injuries. And with a very small sample size for this time of year, just getting some bad breaks from the zebras could hurt the numbers. Still - 50% is a big drop.
Manu always had unbelievable court vision. He's probably the best I've ever seen at seeing passing lanes. More, he creates passing lanes better than just about anyone. When he was young he made some crazy-good passes, but he tried others that were just crazy. This year it's like he's the old Manu, but under more control. The best of both worlds.
Spurs have 17 games left and given the nature of the schedule, I'd expect Manu to play somewhere between 12-14 of them, so yeah, I think he'll get to full fitness, assuming no set backs.
I'll know he's feeling really good about his game when he can go behind-the-back on his dribble or split a double team. The mid-range jumper coming back is a good sign of progress though.
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Don't we all know already that we win with manu and we lose with him?
That was me nono
When I watch him, I see a much slower player that is not only worse defensively, but who has not got his legs fully under him and not handling the ball that well on the dribble.
When the playoffs come, we must have more explosion from him on both ends. He is just not as quick to the basket by my eye. He is using much more anticipation on D because he is not as quick. His shot lacks legs when he is tired, and he gets tired much more rapidly.
bottom line... he is not Ginobili yet. I am not seeing the same player.
The above stated, he still is the one guy on the team that does more to get the other players going than anyone on the Spurs. For that reason alone he is still incredibly valuable. But I beg to see him at full G.
^ People tire and get old, dude
ya dont say?
Older people also take longer to heal. Im still waiting for him to heal fully. I hope thats what Im waiting for. Either that or I have seen more than a years aging in a year.
I also see Duncan looking spry compared to last year. So its a difficult judgement. BTW, he is also a year older than last year.
TBH, I think your arguing with your opinion.
Observation: already made.TBH, I think your arguing with your opinion.
Reasoning and a question: Is it just age or is it still lingering mobility from the hip and old horrible ankle injuries?
Other Observations: Duncan looks better than last year physically imo.
so whats the verdict on Ginobili, will he get better, maybe even better than last year ala Duncan? Or have we seen what we will get. Because if we have, imo, we will not win the West.
Nope. timvp said it a few months ago. I'm sure he remembers.
This is why youth is not always good. Manu is definitely a smarter, more savvy player than he was 9 years ago.
I'd argue 20 games IS a small sample size.
To further elaborate, Manu's taken 175 FGs this season so far. Thats a very small number in a statistical context. Of those, 84 (or nearly half) have been from the 3 point line.
The biggest skew in those 3s is that 2/3rds of those have come at home where he's shooting 51% as compared to 26% on the road.
You can say Manu is playing well, but you can't point to his shooting and say those percentages are statistically significant in any way.
I'd like Tim and Tiago for better starting defense. A frontcourt of KL, Tim, and Tiago would be formidable on defense with their length.
Regarding the fewer FT attempts, it might have something to do with the Offensive Efficiency vs. Defensive efficiency rate. We are fifth in the league on that according to Hoopdata.com.
We aren't playing in as many close games so often Ginobilli and TD and TP aren't even on the court at the end of the game. I noticed the other night that at the end of the game it was Ginobilli and a bunch of the youngsters out there. Manu wasn't taking shots but just 'facilitating'.
It sorta looked like the old Alpha male wolf taking the pack's cubs out for a lesson in how to bring down prey.
As Timvp outlined, Manu is probably the best offensive player in the league at the moment. And you want to change that?????
Brah, the spurs now have Green, Neal, Tiago, and even Leonard taking it hard to the rack to help draw shooting fouls. Last year it was often only Hill doing this. I don't know about you but I'm perfectly fine if Ginobili trades a few of those 5-14 type shooting nights for the occassional double digit assist game. I've always thought he forced a few too many shots in past years, but this was also mostly due to the fact that he had less bonafide weapons to throw the ball to. Now that he does, he's operating at peak efficiency. Why have him sacrificing his body all game long and putting himself at considerable risk to draw fouls when he has all these new weapons around him?
Pop's making em all draw straws this year.
Keep dreaming.
manu is sometimes turning into turnoboli
I feel like I'm going through the stages of grief. Just completely fluctuating between anger, sadness, and bargaining where the frontcourt is concerned.
It'll be mostly anger if Blair is starting in the playoffs though.
I'd agree with this. Those easy baskets could do a lot to boost confidence since it seems like this team has more energy when people are making their shots. No stats or anything, just my impression.
To the OP:
I thought it was obvious?
Cut him some slack. He still thinks people from Texas drag gays into the street and beat them while the police watch.
I think there is a lot of good analysis here, but once the PO kicks in and teams start packing the paint and closing the lines for the 3, goodbye to open 3´s and goodbye to the fast break (defense not set) penetration.
And balls will be going back to ginobili because he is the only one who really has all 4 offensive options polished, 3, midrange, penetration and assist.
TP´s game slows a bit in the PO because he cannot take a 3 off the dribble like Manu can, so teams can close out on him or pack for his penetrations, that happened last year en this year will be similar, Ginobili offensive production will be increased a lot once teams take away the most basic offensive schemes.
So you're saying the police don't participate in the beatings?
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