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    Zimmerman turned himself in...

    Can he now claim the $10,000 new black panther reward?

    Seems only fair.
    He should sue them if they don't cough it up
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    Legislators say the statute is overbroad and has been used in unintended ways. Prosecutors say it's preventing them from doing their jobs. I understand letting a state control their penal code, but this law seems like it's hindering justice. Someone can take an interest in that without being a Floridian.
    I think the point is the "Stand Your Ground" provision of the Florida statute was never an issue in this case. Zimmerman didn't claim it, the police never mentioned it, and the prosecutors didn't consider it.

    Just like the race-baiters who made it about race - when it wasn't, the Brady Bunch jumped on this and tried to shoe-horn it into a narrative that would cause gun carry laws, the castle doctrine, and stand your ground provisions to be scrutinized.
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    I wonder when the criminal complaint or indictment (if those are issued without a grand jury) will be released.

    That should specifically state the elements of the crime the prosecutor believes make it a 2nd degree murder, no?
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    I wonder if Zimmerman's prior arrest history will come out?

    In 2005 Zimmerman was arrested on DUI and battery on a police officer. The felony charge was reduced to a misdemeanor and he was ordered to attend anger management classes.
    http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/g...estic-violence
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    Whistling past the graveyard much?

    George Zimmerman, the Hispanic Floridian who killed black teenager Trayvon Martin on Feb. 26, had a MySpace account whose username was “datniggytb,” The Daily Caller has learned.

    According to a family member whose iden y The Daily Caller has agreed not to reveal for safety reasons, the “datniggytb” name is not a racial slur, but a friendly nickname that referred to George himself.

    “That was an old nickname his black friends gave him,” the Zimmerman family member said. “He didn’t have an issue with the profile name.”

    Asked about the significance of the letters “tb” at the end of the username, the family member insisted that they did not stand for Trayvon Benjamin, his shooting victim’s first and middle names.

    <SNIP>

    Full article here: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/11/zi...t-explanation/
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    Photoshop fun!


    George Zimmerman
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    dupe
    Last edited by Nbadan; 04-12-2012 at 12:14 AM.
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    Zimmerman's new lawyer...


    Attorney Mark O'Mara, who was a legal expert for Local 6 in the Casey Anthony murder trial and the ongoing Trayvon Martin death investigation, is now representing George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watchman who shot and killed the teen in Sanford.

    Zimmerman was charged Wednesday with second-degree murder in Martin's death.

    O'Mara said Zimmerman will plead not guilty and asked that people not jump to conclusions about his client's guilt. O'Mara said he's "hoping that the community will calm down" now that charges have been filed and the case is moving forward.

    "I'm expecting a lot of work and hopefully justice in the end," said O'Mara, who added that Zimmerman is OK but concerned about his future. "He's frightened."
    Read more: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Loc...z/-/index.html
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    No one has mentioned but I bet Rush Limbaugh is enjoying this . His controversy has basically died since this race baiting and fake race war is the number one news story right now. And I bet that uppity that cried to Congress is sad that her 15 minutes are up.
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    And I bet that uppity that cried to Congress is sad that her 15 minutes are up.
    i didn't know you cried to congress.

    tell us all about it.
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    i didn't know you cried to congress.

    tell us all about it.
    there's lots of uppity es besides him
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    Okay.
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    I think the point is the "Stand Your Ground" provision of the Florida statute was never an issue in this case. Zimmerman didn't claim it, the police never mentioned it, and the prosecutors didn't consider it.
    AFAIK, Zimmerman did claim self-defense, which in Florida falls right into "Stand Your Ground" territory.
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    Now don't jump to conclusions now. We must wait on all the facts.
    Isn't "I'll bet" an indication that I am not certain? A bet is a gamble. A gamble is not a certainty.

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    Good on all counts, except the last one. Sharpton will turn this into a god dammned circus in short order.
    Sharpton has been the main attraction of his one horse circus act for some time.

    The guy is tiresome, and should retire.
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    2nd degree is going to be unable to prove. They should have gone with manslaughter and gotten a guaranteed conviction.
    Unless there is some good evidence we haven't been privy to, I agree. Seems to me that this is a political move that will allow the prosecutor to say "we tried" and give Zimmerman a legal "not guilty."

    I wonder if they will allow the jury to come back with an "innocent" verdict?

    That would really piss of the race baiters.
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    The prosecution would have to convince the jury that Zimmerman initiated an assault.
    Wrong
    Please explain. There are I think three different statutes that the prosecution would have to show that not a single one applied to Zimmerman.

    See:
    s. 776.012
    s. 776.013
    s. 776.031
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    It still needs to be changed. Z being brought to trial doesn't change the fact that the stand your ground stuff is fundamentally flawed.
    Did you read the law? I did and don't know what you might mean. Please elaborate.
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    , a stadium full of black panthers couldn't scrape together 10 grand.
    My My...

    How prejudice of you.
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    I hope you are just humoring him and didn't really think it funny.
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    All the cards haven't been turned over yet.

    Based on the ones I have seen I'm betting not guilty.

    I'm a decent poker player but I lose hands all the time.
    I agree.

    I think for the possibility of a conviction, they would either have to prove the cries for help were martin's and not Zimmerman's, or have a good witness that saw what transpired other than what we hear.

    Maybe they are hoping Zimmerman will trip out with a possibility of life sentence, and plea bargain for a lesser crime, even if innocent. It wouldn't be the first time they do like that.
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    I wonder if Zimmerman's prior arrest history will come out?



    http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/g...estic-violence
    Hard to say, and hard to believe accounts of a newspaper these days.
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    Please explain. There are I think three different statutes that the prosecution would have to show that not a single one applied to Zimmerman.

    See:
    s. 776.012
    s. 776.013
    s. 776.031
    Yep. No "initiated an assault" in any of of them.
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    Yeah, I didn't think so
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