Supportive housing for the chronically homeless saves San Diego $$$

[Drachen]

And you know this guy is tied to "Haven for the Hopeless" how?

I don't think he does, he just said that his experience with crime has increased dramatically since Haven for hope opened.

[boutons_deux]

"adult who chose his style of living"

this year's wave of foreclosures includes millions on prime mortgages where one or both breadwinners lost their jobs or were forced to take jobs paying well below their preceding jobs.

People are losing their ability to house themselves due to America (the 1%) failing to provide a humane society where even the poorest can live somewhere.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Schizophrenics, bipolars, and severe depressives make up a large quan y of the homeless as do the disabled. There are a lot of verious substance abusers and these groups are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps we should kill half and feed them to the other half?

[spursncowboys]

I need to remind myself that there are idiots on the internet who would rather say nonsense than actually build on a conversation.

[clambake]

In that same thinking, would annihilation of an entire country because every generation is trained and raised to harm Americans, would that be acceptable too?

americas finest.

[TheSullyMonster]

I don't understand why they can't move them to a more country setting and let them have gardens etc. They are already providing them food, shelter, and medical treatment. Get them out of that urban street trash cycle/environment...

Where would they get a job? Go to school, etc?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you're an idiot. Grow up

I was just trying to describe the demographic. And then I took an extension of your altruism. I'm also listening to old Dice Clay albums.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't think he does, he just said that his experience with crime has increased dramatically since Haven for hope opened.

It's a normal pattern in most places when you gather certain types of people in one place. Criminal activity also seems to follow public transit rail systems.

[spursncowboys]

Where would they get a job? Go to school, etc?

Are you saying that the government has that answer? Are you saying that the actually person cannot decide that? That the lack of a decision is still a decision.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you saying that the government has that answer? Are you saying that the actually person cannot decide that? That the lack of a decision is still a decision.

And thus my commentary on mental illness. Severe schizophrenics and bipolar 1's, and borderline depressives don't have the ability of 'choice.'

[spursncowboys]

Correct Fuzzy. Now what about the others.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Correct Fuzzy. Now what about the others.

We kill them and feed them to the other half. its their choice or lack of choice so em right?

[Wild Cobra]

[ElNono]

I need to remind myself that there are idiots on the internet who would rather say nonsense than actually build on a conversation.

You just described your preceding post.

[spursncowboys]

You just described your preceding post.

me

Correct Fuzzy. Now what about the others.

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You seem to be sticking up for a fellow lib over making sense. congrats.

[spursncowboys]

but this one made your cut of non idiotic comments:

We kill them and feed them to the other half. its their choice or lack of choice so em right?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

but this one made your cut of non idiotic comments:

I was being facetious. Seeing that the rest are mostly drunks and drug addicts, i would decriminalize drugs and make it a medical issue. i certainly wouldn't just say, oh well they asked for it, and ignore the problem.

[spursncowboys]

You have all the answers. How would you fund this? Other people's money?

[boutons_deux]

snc has no objection to funding the MIC and resource imperialism with "other people's money", but is full of umbrage against from trying to stop Human-Americans from rotting to death.

[TheSullyMonster]

Are you saying that the government has that answer? Are you saying that the actually person cannot decide that? That the lack of a decision is still a decision.

I'm saying putting (mostly) unemployed people in an environment with little economic or educational opportunity may not be terribly helpful.

Unless, of course, you're just trying to ignore the problems of homelessness and poverty.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm saying putting (mostly) unemployed people in an environment with little economic or educational opportunity may not be terribly helpful.

Unless, of course, you're just trying to ignore the problems of homelessness and poverty.

I thought we were talking about the chronically homeless (see the OP). They don't want or can't handle the responsibility of taking care of themselves via education and economic opportunity.

[Yonivore]

I haven't read the thread but, here's the problem I see with these types of programs.

Just like Section 8 housing, if the digs are better than those being lived in by people other than the "chronically homeless," the numbers of "chronically homeless" will rise until the supportive housing program is no longer solvent and becomes a property-value wrecking boondoggle like Section 8 housing.

, I know if I were living in a run-down shack on the wrong side of the tracks and saw my city plucking the homeless off the street and putting them up in nice apartments or houses, I'd figure out how to qualify as "chronically homeless" pretty damn quick.

My two-cents worth.

[ChumpDumper]

I haven't read the thread

[CosmicCowboy]

According to the Haven for the Hopeless website, 60% of the homeless there either have severe substance abuse issues or mental illness.

[Winehole23]

so then, addicted and crazy people should be frequent fliers at city jails at great public expense, because they do not deserve the help