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    And, it doesn't mean they didn't.
    So this:

    Were the foreign nationals of questionable repute allowed access to facilities that contained sensitive do ents (related to the security and schedule of a sitting U. S. President)? Yes.
    is just a guess... Exactly.

    Quite honestly, I thought you were saying they store their weapons at the U. S. Embassy when out of country -- the "required," I thought, was implied. If it isn't required, I'd almost guarantee you that horn dog that bragged about checking Palin out when he was on her detail, probably had a back up weapon strapped to his leg while he was humping that hooker.

    He's just that type. Frankly, I'm amazed someone with that type of character -- which he was more than willing to display on Facebook -- was even in the service. If that's the case, it's fallen quite a bit since my short association with members of their service.

    But, sure, ask him. I'd be interested to know what the rules are...if he'll tell you. That, in itself, would seem to be a breech of security, though.
    I'm not defending the guys or their actions, tbh. If they ed up, they should get the axe. But I also doubt that any gonzo can walk in and serve in the Secret Service. I would expect these people to be thoroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.

    I get the impression this wasn't a new revelation to the Service. I think it escalated when it became public and thus it looked bad enough to put a dog and pony show for the cameras.

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    My God ElNono... Any ideas how unlikely it would be that they didn't have any sensitive information with them?
    Since your guess is as good as mine, very unlikely. I don't think these guys stop being professional because they a .

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    Since your guess is as good as mine, very unlikely. I don't think these guys stop being professional because they a .
    They have already committed a serious breach of protocol by that action. They are expected to be good examples of us. This is really the biggest problem. They broke standing protocol, and now cannot be trusted.

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    They have already committed a serious breach of protocol by that action. They are expected to be good examples of us. This is really the biggest problem. they broke standing protocol, and now cannot be trusted.
    You don't even know what the rules are. Neither do I. That's why it's called the Secret Service. That said, it's not unreasonable to think they do these things and that the Service is aware of it (even if it isn't sanctioned).

    To me, it's no different than US soldiers hiring pros utes in their time off.

    I could agree it's an error in judgement, but at the same time, I doubt we're having this conversation if it didn't become the scandal that it was.

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    Is he back on the radio in this area? They took him off the channel I listen to and replaced him with a local conservative talk show.
    Yeah that guy they replaced him with sucks, I really can't stand his show. Miller is on the tea party station FM 92.5 along with Ingram, Savage, Boortz. Their signal sucks so I can't pick it up out near Boerne.

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    You don't even know what the rules are. Neither do I. That's why it's called the Secret Service. That said, it's not unreasonable to think they do these things and that the Service is aware of it (even if it isn't sanctioned).

    To me, it's no different than US soldiers hiring pros utes in their time off.

    I could agree it's an error in judgement, but at the same time, I doubt we're having this conversation if it didn't become the scandal that it was.
    LOL....

    You are really something. I can continue to tell you why you are wrong, but I have practiced enough today arguing with a brick wall.

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    is just a guess... Exactly.
    Actually, no. It was based on the same type of media reports you linked saying the information wasn't in the rooms...

    Like this:

    Possible security breach: Secret Service agents had president's schedule in rooms

    The Secret Service agents who brought pros utes back to their hotel rooms in Colombia last week had copies of the president’s schedule in their rooms, which raises the issue of a potential security breach, a law enforcement official tells NBC News.
    I'm not defending the guys or their actions, tbh. If they ed up, they should get the axe. But I also doubt that any gonzo can walk in and serve in the Secret Service. I would expect these people to be thoroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.
    If that's the case, the problems are much worse than I expected. Because Mr. "I-checked-Palin-out-if-you-know-what-I-mean-and-posted-it-on-my-Facebook" was a supervising agent. The Palin detail ended in 2008, after the election.

    You're right, you would expect these people to be throroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.

    I think we're wrong. Otherwise, this idiot would not still have still been around after his comments about a Vice Presidential candidate. At least, you would hope not.

    I get the impression this wasn't a new revelation to the Service. I think it escalated when it became public and thus it looked bad enough to put a dog and pony show for the cameras.
    I agree. And, yet another reason for them to clean house from top to bottom.

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    Actually, no. It was based on the same type of media reports you linked saying the information wasn't in the rooms...

    Like this:
    Which were updated with news such as this:

    A source at the agency told Reuters that presidential schedules and other sensitive do ents are kept in a separate secured room, but Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee isn't totally reassured.

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    If that's the case, the problems are much worse than I expected. Because Mr. "I-checked-Palin-out-if-you-know-what-I-mean-and-posted-it-on-my-Facebook" was a supervising agent. The Palin detail ended in 2008, after the election.

    You're right, you would expect these people to be throroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.

    I think we're wrong. Otherwise, this idiot would not still have still been around after his comments about a Vice Presidential candidate. At least, you would hope not.
    Not familiar with the whole Palin incident. Wouldn't surprise me some of these guys might be on a power trip. I would think it'd be the minority, or you'll see a lot more incidents like this.

    But I also think these guys follow a very strict, supervised set of rules when dealing with sensitive material, etc.

    I agree. And, yet another reason for them to clean house from top to bottom.
    They black eye is there and somebody is going to have to pay the price, so clean house it is.

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    I also think these guys follow a very strict, supervised set of rules when dealing with sensitive material, etc.
    I'm with Peter King...I'm not so reassured after what we've witnessed this past week.

    They black eye is there and somebody is going to have to pay the price, so clean house it is.
    Start at the top.

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    Macho posturing, locker room banter and towel snapping, sanctimonious harangues, gratuitous lewdness, false hilarity...this thread has everything!


    If you don't like it...you can geeeeeeeet out!

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    And now a secret service agents speaks of "checking her out" when referring to Palin.

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    seriously, lets make a big deal out of ing some es whenever much MUCH worse goes on in america every single day

    this shouldn't even be news. i guess i'm a bad guy becuase i'd that big ty too.

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