Spurs dominance creating rule changes...

[Solid D]

I remember when Pop was an assistant for Nellie at Golden State in '92. The Spurs had Mr. Mean, Larry Smith, a great rebounder but a 50% FT shooter. Nellie (or was it Pop whispering in Nellie's ear?) used to have his players foul Larry with great purpose as soon as the ball was inbounded or changed possessions. 'Bout drove Tark crazy. I was at a game at the old HemisFair Arena when they did that Hack-A-Smith tactic and it worked big-time.

[Splits]

No.

Other teams have been doing it as well. Miami rested Bosh and Wade tonight. Boston rested their Big 3 against Charlotte earlier this week. Nash and Hill rested in the middle game of a b2b2b. That's just off the top of my head.

Wade has rested several games the past couple of weeks.

[Obstructed_View]

It was known as the Barkley rule.

Yep, that's the way I remember it too. Jackson also was mentioned during that time, since he would bring the ball up and immediately just go into the post without passing.

[KaiRMD1]

No.

Other teams have been doing it as well. Miami rested Bosh and Wade tonight. Boston rested their Big 3 against Charlotte earlier this week. Nash and Hill rested in the middle game of a b2b2b. That's just off the top of my head.

Then pop is the only one that gets press over it I guess. Actually, that's the only thing the Spurs get press about

[Mel_13]

Then pop is the only one that gets press over it I guess. Actually, that's the only thing the Spurs get press about

Those were all widely reported on ESPN and all the other mainstream sources.

The difference, from our perspective, is that those decisions didn't lead to dozens of hysterical threads on ST.

[Blake]

Then pop is the only one that gets press over it I guess. Actually, that's the only thing the Spurs get press about

Nobody else puts DNP: Old in the box score

[z0sa]

Didn't they put in the "5 second back to the basket in the post" penalty to prevent teams from dropping it in to the post? Sounds like it's something to limit TD.

Has anyone ever seen this called?

[Quiet Strength]

Nobody else puts DNP: Old in the box score

Didn't someone else do that recently?

[Obstructed_View]

Has anyone ever seen this called?

Never.

[Phenomanul]

They did start enforcing the staggered arrangement for those seeking to steal jump-ball tips... Manu still manages to steal them...

[dunkman]

Where happens . . .

[YoMamaIsCallin]

That rule would be impossible to enforce. All a player would have to do is claim "cramps" or "back spasms" if the coach wanted him to rest.

Actually that's the way it was long ago when we had the IL or Injured List. If a player needed to be inactive for a game they had to be injured, which often was "injured".

[GSH]

Has anyone ever seen this called?

Believe it or not, they called it against Tony Parker once.

I think I've seen it one other time.


Edit: Here - I can't find the actual play, but I think this is a reference to it:
http://www.spursreport.com/forums/501035-post26.html

And what about that 5 second violation they called on Tony last year against LA, where did that come from, I haven't seen it called before or since. Even the announcers had to look it up, as they were certain that the 5 second rule didn't exist in the pros. Van Gundy has a lot of balls to have spoken up

[Obstructed_View]

When Splitter brought the ball up and went into the post without passing, how many of you expected them to call it on him?

[Galileo]

An NBA conspiracy thread!

Neato!

is everything a conspiracy to you? Good grief!

[Obstructed_View]

You don't even know hardly anything at all about the NBA.

Well said.

[timvp]

The no hand-check rule was implemented after the 1993-94 season. It had nothing to do with the Spurs.

Hand-checking was modified after the 1994 season. But after the 1999, it was all but eliminated.

In the backcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders. In the frontcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders except below the free throw line extended in which case the defender may only use his forearm. In the post, neither the offensive player nor the defender is allowed to dislodge or displace a player who has legally obtained a position. Defender may not use his forearm, shoulder, hip or hand to reroute or hold-up an offensive player going from point A to point B or one who is attempting to come around a legal screen set by another offensive player. Slowing or impeding the progress of the screener by grabbing, clutching, holding “chucking” or “wrapping up” is prohibited.

R.I.P. Elie, Jackson and Kersey, tbh.

defenders must always stay within an arm's length of the offensive player when the opponent has possession.

That isn't and has never been the rule.

Well said.

[Obstructed_View]

Just got done watching the Bulls beat the Mavericks by running various zone defenses. They were never whistled for any kind of violation.

[therealtruth]

Originally Posted by Manu_Forever
defenders must always stay within an arm's length of the offensive player when the opponent has possession.









That isn't and has never been the rule.

I think he's talking about the illegal defense rule.

[Obstructed_View]

There is something called defensive 3 seconds violation. Google it.

You must have never played basketball, even in high school.

Which has nothing to do with zone defense. You can switch off in a 2-3 zone without standing in the lane for more than three seconds. You must just say amazingly stupid for the attention.

[Spursfanfromafar]

You must just say amazingly stupid for the attention.

Amazing how this attention-wanting idiot "KBP" continues to spew nonsense forever on this forum.

[Obstructed_View]

That isn't a true zone defense idiot.

Zone defense is different from man-to-man defense in that, instead of guarding a particular player, each zone defender is responsible for guarding an area of the floor, or "zone", and any offensive player that comes into that area.

According to the definition, it's exactly a zone defense. If there were anything in the definition of a zone defense that states that one defender is required to stand in the painted area at all times, then you'd be correct.

However, you're never correct.

[Texas_Ranger]

Juwan Howard just did the 5 second rule...

[Sec24Row7]

One rule that was NO QUESTION changed for the spurs was the implementation of the free throw line UP limit on players outside the three point line on free throws.

Cant tell you how many times I saw Manu or Tony sneak down to the corner and run in to grab the O rebound when we were such horrible free throw shooters.