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    I disagree. Neal and Blair play at levels above their current contracts. Even Blair, for all his inconsistency this year, still outperforms several of his peers from his draft class dollar for dollar. I'm not saying either alone would fetch a top 15 pick like Hill, but if someone the Spurs like is still around between in the early 20s, who knows.
    My reasoning behind Neal and Blair having little trade value is that they have both very limited role players. Neal will turn 28 this offseason and Blair has no ACLs. Saying that, I can understand why you disagree with that and see them as producing players on cheap contracts.

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

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    the point is, the Spurs won't land a mid 1st round pick via Blair or Neal. Hill was a so much more attractive asset and it still needed a team that really really wanted him. Pacers just wanted their hometown kid back.

    Spurs might get a end 1st rounder at best. but it doesn't make any sense to add another late 1st rounder at this point.
    it's a better and more likely scenario that they somehow get a 2nd rounder (Cavs own the #33 and #34 pick).

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    the point is, the Spurs won't land a mid 1st round pick via Blair or Neal. Hill was a so much more attractive asset and it still needed a team that really really wanted him. Pacers just wanted their hometown kid back.

    Spurs might get a end 1st rounder at best. but it doesn't make any sense to add another late 1st rounder at this point.
    it's a better and more likely scenario that they somehow get a 2nd rounder (Cavs own the #33 and #34 pick).
    Problem being that those early second round picks are worth more than late first-rounders, particularly if picking up overseas talent.

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    Yeah but this year even the late 1st round picks have pretty good value. The draft is deep. Look at how much teams paid for late 1st picks.

    This draft is going to be boring with the Spurs having only a late 2nd round pick.

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    Yeah but this year even the late 1st round picks have pretty good value. The draft is deep. Look at how much teams paid for late 1st picks.

    This draft is going to be boring with the Spurs having only a late 2nd round pick.

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    Yeah but this year even the late 1st round picks have pretty good value. The draft is deep. Look at how much teams paid for late 1st picks.
    We'll see. I don't watch college basketball or follow their players, but after doing some research, it just sounds like its top 15 deep. After that, the hype around this draft dies down.

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    Yeah but this year even the late 1st round picks have pretty good value. The draft is deep. Look at how much teams paid for late 1st picks.

    This draft is going to be boring with the Spurs having only a late 2nd round pick.

    The draft from #25-30 will only be slightly better than usual, nothing special in my opinion..Only desperate teams would up the price for a late 1st rd pick, this has very little to do with the draft depth and much more to do with teams in panic mode.

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    Raulzinho Neto will enter the draft, according to his agent. Very interesting prospect.

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    Raulzinho Neto will enter the draft, according to his agent. Very interesting prospect.
    I'm reading the opposite:
    http://twitter.com/#!/DraftExpress/s...53082455199744
    Brazilians Augusto Cesar Lima, Lucas Nogueira and Raul Neto will all pass on entering the 2012 draft, according to their agency.

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    Then you're right, I guess. I read he was projected as a mid-second rounder.

    We'll see if he can improve next season and become a first rounder.

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    To bad about Augusto, I was hoping the Spurs would be able to draft the kid but with his spinal injury I know teams will be scarred.

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    Today at 11:59 pm is the deadline for underclassmen to declare for the NBA draft.

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    International early entry candidates for 2012 #NBA Draft: Furkan Aldemir, Jonas Bergstedt, Evan Fournier, Josep Franch, Maximilian Kleber, Lahaou Konate, Mindaugas Kupsas, Joffrey Lauvergne, Abdoulaye Loum, Nika Metreveli, Nemanja Nedovic, Alen Omic, Jakub Parzenski, Sertac Sanli, Tomas Satoransky, Tornike Shengelia, Mathieu Wojciechowski

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    Ugh. Just about my only misgiving about the Stephen Jackson trade is that it gave away our first round pick. Sure, it ended up being the last pick of the draft, but we need something to talk about, right? Especially given how deep this year's pool is.

    That said, is there any reasonable way we can get into the first round without giving up too much? Like buying a pick or trading a player, a la George Hill?

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    Ugh. Just about my only misgiving about the Stephen Jackson trade is that it gave away our first round pick. Sure, it ended up being the last pick of the draft, but we need something to talk about, right? Especially given how deep this year's pool is.

    That said, is there any reasonable way we can get into the first round without giving up too much? Like buying a pick or trading a player, a la George Hill?
    I'm not complaining abt the trade, but i too will miss the draft day drama. On the other hand it's fun to speculate what it may take for the spurs to get into the first round this year. Also, the spurs have done a good job at finding value from different sources in recent years, that I wouldnt be surprised if they find another gem this summer.

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    With the Spurs working out a bunch of players projected to go in the first round, it's pretty safe to assume that either Blair or Neal (or both) could be packaged in a trade for a first round pick. And considering Blair was recently invited to work out with Team USA's Olympic 2012 team, it's easy to see how valued he is around the rest of the league, which means he could net use a relatively high draft pick in such a deep draft.

    Which makes the 2012 Draft a whole lot more interesting for Spurs fans. I know lots of people are caught up in our playoff run, but regardless of whether we go on to win the le --fingers crossed -- this could shape up to be a very interesting postseason.

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    With the Spurs working out a bunch of players projected to go in the first round
    Aside of Draymond Green, I don't think Spurs have worked out another potential first round pick.

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    I know most of you guys hate Blair, but i think he could net us a late 1st pick or an early 2nd round pick easily.

    The Cavs, for example, has two early 2nd round picks and we could easily grab one of them for Blair. The Cavs has only 2 decent BIGs, Andy and TT.

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    Considering how deep this draft is with big men, anyone think we might give up Splitter in a deal with Neal for a pick?

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    Considering how deep this draft is with big men, anyone think we might give up Splitter in a deal with Neal for a pick?
    No

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    Considering how deep this draft is with big men, anyone think we might give up Splitter in a deal with Neal for a pick?
    I wouldn't put it past our front office.

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    Not if you want a championship...

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    I know most of you guys hate Blair, but i think he could net us a late 1st pick or an early 2nd round pick easily.

    The Cavs, for example, has two early 2nd round picks and we could easily grab one of them for Blair. The Cavs has only 2 decent BIGs, Andy and TT.
    That might be reasonable actually. Blair has always struck me as a guy who can be a standout player on a bad team. The Cavs seem like a perfect fit to be honest.

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    Considering how deep this draft is with big men, anyone think we might give up Splitter in a deal with Neal for a pick?
    If it were a good enough pick (i.e. if we thought we could get a future All-Star), I think it's possible. If there is some kind of team looking for an above-average center that already has enough talented kids and wants a mature veteran who still has plenty of years left, anything's possible.

    It might be workable if we thought Lorbek was NBA-ready (and willing to sign for the LLE), though we'd sure be giving up a lot in terms of defensive depth in the post. The best case for getting the draft pick would be if we could get a really good post player, so maybe Lorbek + some really good young athletic post player is a workable second unit in the post next year.

    Of course, if just the right guy isn't available, it would be crazy to trade Tiago.

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    NBA announces 60 invitations to Chicago draft combine:

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