Florida State to the Big XII?

[Sisk]

maybe not. The first push might have come from Larry Scotts original invitation to the big
12 where insecurity started setting in

So you just intentionally changed the quote to make it incorrect?

[stretch]

Very interesting

very butthurt

[Sisk]

very butthurt

I'm as happy as can be in the S-E-C.

[laxtonto]

I'm as happy as can be in the S-E-C.

Even with FSU Clemson and potentially ND announcement on the horizon a smaller payout than the rest of the Big 12 Texas schools?

[Spurtacus]

I'm as happy as can be in the S-E-C.

Enjoy 2-10 seasons

[Sisk]

Even with FSU Clemson and potentially ND announcement on the horizon a smaller payout than the rest of the Big 12 Texas schools?

I GREATLY doubt that ND will come to the B12. FSU and Clemson are all but inevitable. The SEC will pick up VT and an NC school when the ACC collapses, which would be great. We needed to leave the B12 not only for more money and an even distribution of power, but also to get away from Texas. I'm glad we left regardless of what happens with the B12.

[Sisk]

Enjoy 2-10 seasons

[Spurtacus]

I know I basically said SEC is better than the Big 12. I can't deny that.

[Blake]

So you just intentionally changed the quote to make it incorrect?

meh, not really.

I think CU, NU leaving had more to do with wanting security blankets than leaving because of the UT network. No major dominoes fell when these two left, only Utah.

I don't think Mizzou gets invited to the SEC unless A&M leaves.

A&M flat left because of their arrogance and butthurt over the Longhorn Network.....in turn making it easy for the SEC to rift Mizzou.... thus forcing the Big [] to add schools, causing other dominoes to fall.....some which are about to....

i.e. realignment.

[Sisk]

I know I basically said SEC is better than the Big 12. I can't deny that.

[Sisk]

meh, not really.

I think CU, NU leaving had more to do with wanting security blankets than leaving because of the UT network. No major dominoes fell when these two left, only Utah.

I don't think Mizzou gets invited to the SEC unless A&M leaves.

A&M flat left because of their arrogance and butthurt over the Longhorn Network.....in turn making it easy for the SEC to rift Mizzou.... thus forcing the Big [] to add schools, causing other dominoes to fall...

i.e. realignment.

If Tech had the same opportunity (join the SEC) as A&M, would it? To be the only SEC school in Texas.

[Sisk]

Go ask a Nebraska fan why they left. It was all about Texas.

[Blake]

If Tech had the same opportunity (join the SEC) as A&M, would it? To be the only SEC school in Texas.

Based on the rumblings of Tech joining the Pac16 and what Tech officials said concerning those rumors, probably not.

They made it pretty clear that they were hitching the Raider wagon on to Bevo's, rain or shine.

[Sisk]

Based on the rumblings of Tech joining the Pac16 and what Tech officials said concerning those rumors, probably not.

They made it pretty clear that they were hitching the Raider wagon on to Bevo's, rain or shine.

I'd bet they said those things because they didn't have a choice, tbh. Not even trying to talk , just saying. I doubt Tech would deny an invitation to join the SEC.

[Blake]

Go ask a Nebraska fan why they left. It was all about Texas.

Nah. I'll go with what the chancellor and president of Nebraska said instead.

Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman said the Big Ten offers stability "that the Big 12 simply cannot offer."

.....Perlman said he believed Nebraska is much more "aligned" with the Big Ten than the Big 12 when it comes to academics, culture and athletics.

...."The University of Nebraska would have new opportunities with membership in the Big Ten -- and I believe the Big Ten would be a stronger conference as well," university president J.B. Milliken said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5276551

[Blake]

I'd bet they said those things because they didn't have a choice, tbh. Not even trying to talk , just saying. I doubt Tech would deny an invitation to join the SEC.

As of today though, there is no way Tech would accept an invite from the SEC. That would be dumber than Aggy moving to the SEC.

Tech definitely took note of UT giving Aggy the middle finger for future match-ups.

[Sisk]

Nah. I'll go with what the chancellor and president of Nebraska said instead.

Since officials are always honest about these things. Remember when the SEC said they were just find with 12 members?

As of today though, there is no way Tech would accept an invite from the SEC. That would be dumber than Aggy moving to the SEC.

I didn't say as of today.

Tech definitely took note of UT giving Aggy the middle finger for future match-ups.

We don't care to play tech. I personally would rather not play Texas. At least for a few years.

[The Reckoning]

let the butthurt flow

[Blake]

Since officials are always honest about these things. Remember when the SEC said they were just find with 12 members?

If you'd rather believe messageboard hack fans like you and me over actual university officials, that's your prerogative.

I didn't say as of today.

You sure didn't say yesterday or tomorrow.

We don't care to play tech. I personally would rather not play Texas. At least for a few years.

I'm not talking about Tech playing Aggy.

Tech playing UT means a lot on many different levels.

Byrne realized what Aggy is losing by not playing UT. Looks to me Aggy fan hasn't realized it yet and would rather remain butthurt and jealous.

[Sisk]

let the butthurt flow

Who is refusing to play who?

[Blake]

Who is refusing to play who?

A&M refused the Big XII.

Sorry they were too stupid to think that schedule conflicts might subsequently occur.

[Sisk]

let the butthurt flow

A&M refused the Big XII.

Sorry they were too stupid to think that schedule conflicts might subsequently occur.

You believe that?

You also believe everything school officials say in press releases. Do you also trust politicians?

[Blake]

You believe that?

yes, I believe that A&M left the Big XII because they really did.

You also believe everything school officials say in press releases. Do you also trust politicians?

Not always. I never trust message board opinions over actual university statements though.

Why do you?

[MajorMike]

Let's not make any mistake about what was offered to the P10. Yes, ttek and OSU are not on the surface the most desireable fanbases, ranking #33 and #41 respective in national fanbases with 911k and 719k. UT and uo rank #5 and #19 with 2.3M and 1.2M.

Interestingly enough, adding these 4 schools would increase the P10's aggregate fanbase over 70% because only SC, UCLA and Cal (#17, 25, 31) rank above OSU and the rest of the conf is VERY poor in nationwide viewing.

The low avidity of college football fans in the Western US means that it’s in the second-tier as a television product: only SC and UCLA have at least 1 million decided fans each. Despite their strong performance on the field, meanwhile, UDub and Oregon rank outside the top 40 in terms of their fan footprint. And other conference schools, like Ore St, Stanf and Wazzu, do poorly by major-conference standards.

The P10/2 NEEDED those schools; they need to be more viewers nation-wide because they do poorly outside the west. They needed more tv sets in other regions. P12 is BY FAR the lowest ranking national fanbase BCS conf (sorry, I'm not counting Big Easy as it has never been a real conf and the B12 just took its only team in the top 30). People may ask why the P10 would have even considered ttek and OSU, but when you have 12 schools with 7.4M viewers total and an average of 619k... teams that have 911k and 719k fans nationwide suddenly look appealing.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's not make any mistake about what was offered to the P10. Yes, ttek and OSU are not on the surface the most desireable fanbases, ranking #33 and #41 respective in national fanbases with 911k and 719k. UT and uo rank #5 and #19 with 2.3M and 1.2M.

Interestingly enough, adding these 4 schools would increase the P10's aggregate fanbase over 70% because only SC, UCLA and Cal (#17, 25, 31) rank above OSU and the rest of the conf is VERY poor in nationwide viewing.

The low avidity of college football fans in the Western US means that it’s in the second-tier as a television product: only SC and UCLA have at least 1 million decided fans each. Despite their strong performance on the field, meanwhile, UDub and Oregon rank outside the top 40 in terms of their fan footprint. And other conference schools, like Ore St, Stanf and Wazzu, do poorly by major-conference standards.

The P10/2 NEEDED those schools; they need to be more viewers nation-wide because they do poorly outside the west. They needed more tv sets in other regions. P12 is BY FAR the lowest ranking national fanbase BCS conf (sorry, I'm not counting Big Easy as it has never been a real conf and the B12 just took its only team in the top 30). People may ask why the P10 would have even considered ttek and OSU, but when you have 12 schools with 7.4M viewers total and an average of 619k... teams that have 911k and 719k fans nationwide suddenly look appealing.

Well, they needed OU and UT. OSU and TTU were the price of admission. The legislatures of each state would have melted down had those schools been left behind.